A Day Without Immigrants is actually a GREAT idea. People who arent even immigrants support us too and even some places are letting mexicans off for work that day. We should prove to them that a day without immigrants is like a day without work or food. More than 11 million immigrants are in this country and without them...America wouldnt be what it is now. U.S Immigrants work A LOT more than Americans. Without Immigrants, there wouldnt be anything but laziness in this country. Its amazing what a whole nation can do!!

I don't known if the outcome will be positive or negative, on a micro level, people will lose their jobs, employers have been quoted on record that if you're scheduled to work and fail to show, you're gone, no different than "sleeping in." On a macro level, what will be accomplished? Nothing, this will be all over the news for a few days and then american amnesia will delete the actions and efforts in a buttons push. What WILL be remembered are any idiocies that are likely to occur. What is funny about this situation is that no one truely cares about anyone else, political parties manipulate to gain vote, and the immigrants themselves only want "theirs." I agree some backlash will likely occur, I agree that seperating themselves by displaying "america againts us " is a stupid tactic, I think its stupid that most kids who will walk out don' really know the issue, I hate it when people call out a minority "Mexicans" (like above) fact is it is about immigrants from all parts of the world no mater what percetage they contribute to the overall population. So when I turn on the television set and see the marchers walking, and protestors protesting, I will obsere for a few seconds and like most change the channel to something more interesting, something that may somewhere in the world may be making a diiference.

I always thought that "immigrant" was a general term that was used for any person who comes to this country from another one. What I don't understand is how it has become synonomous with "Mexican". My husband's parents came here from Croatia (immigration) legally and became US citizens and were proud to be both Croatian and US citizens. I think many people forget that immigrants DO come from all over the world - not just one country.

The comment above that says that "without Immigrants, there wouldnt be anything but laziness in this country" is blatant racism and is ignorant to boot. It's author also seems to have forgotten that many immigrants both Hispanic and otherwise, consider themselves Americans and would take offense to that comment just as much as a white American.

I do agree with that same author that this country wouldn't be what it is without immigrants. This country was built on immigrants and draws from a multitude of cultures due to immigration. The trick is, in previous generations most immigrants were grateful to be here and saw it as an opportunity to have a better life. Now it seems that this country and it's people (including all the immigrants from prior generations) are disrespected and seen as lazy and racist. It also seems that rather than coming here and seeing it as an opportunity people come here and expect things to be done FOR them and that they are entitled to something just because they happen to be here.

I was born in this country and feel lucky. I know countless immigrants who have come here legally and became citizens and also feel lucky. I keep seeing people on TV who don't seem to agree. I keep wondering...why do so many (apparently, it's 11 million and counting) keep wanting to be here if this country and it's people are so horrible?

All immigrants are equal?...not true
All immigrants are grateful for being here? True
Dispite economic situations millions of immigrants are here by choice and are gratefull for the opportunities available to them. Many cities througout the U.S. rely on immigrants economically. Anytime you attempt to remove people from anyplace that they consider home it will be chaotic. Remember 94' we help burn L.A. down for injustice, I doubt they will hold back from doing it again. Immigrants from all over the world make this country,but only a hand full are bullied by the government. A jewish immigrant is treated different than a columbian or mexican immigrant. RACISM still EXISTS. Many middle eastern (persians,armenians, etc) immigrants have not been supportive, from what I've seen through this movement in L.A. WHY....they know they will get tossed out too. Maybe they think will let all the hispanics fight for us...who knows...
Just some thoughts I had....hope someone out there is reading and can add or debate anything I just typed.

What would happen if amnesty is granted to the 11 miliion of the countries immigrants? NOTHING - REMEMBER that in 1986 amnesty was granted to millions of immigrants, and well here we are. AND WHAT is up with the upcoming May boycot, the protests are set up to target the U.S business community, yet the Business community is one of the strongest supporters of legalization, Huh? stupid.

Above:
I don't think all immigrants are happy, Most are not. How could a smile be put upon a face of someone who is foced to come to a place where they compete to work for the most minimal of wages, doing the most difficult of jobs, always failing to realize that their wage is design only to get them to and from work. They look around and for some reason they can no longer read. The food taste like shit, and it's to dam hot outside. At some point they have children, children they will never see grow because the're never around, their education will be subpar and will soon join mom and pop at the local factory. One day they wake to be old, ponder where time has gone, and cry. There are exceptions, heaven is where they are, but hell is where most reside.

I agree with you as far as the wages and how the system is designed to keep them down.
Which is why they need to take a stand on May 1st. To show they are worth more. May 1st is just a baby step to what needs to be done. As for education...They are many reasons? primarly the resources available to them are not up to date. Those that use them are pretty well off. We still have a huge percentage that needs to step and learn the english language but after something like this I think they will see the importance in education and reading. Food tasting like shit...What does that have to do with this topic. You ignorant fuck. The statment you made about them not being around, thats a bullshit statememt. You cannot single out immigrants to single parent home issues. If anything it can probably be relavant to the money they get paid. Also keep this heaven /hell religion shit out of political issues. Trust most immigrants are happy for the opportunities here, than those from their native country. They are not satisfied with they living conditions, which again is a diff issue.
You are all over the place with your statements. Your speaking emotionally instead of logically. They money they get paid is due to abusive ceo assholes taking advantage of vulnerable immigrants trying to make a living.

Wow, Your blog is awesome. TaraX

What do You know "who him"
Have you ever worked 13 Hour shifts in the Hot sun working for $4 an hour?
The truth is you are an Ignorant Fuck that knows nothing of hard work. It is people like you who need to get off your couch and work like an immigrant would. My advice to you is get off the crack and do some damn work.

A day without illegals sounds great to me

Does anyone know when and where any rallies in Atlanta on May 1st are?

Eduaredo Blades- The only reason someone settles for "$4/hr in hot sun" is because they are unskilled for anything else. How is that something to be proud of, regardless of hard work?

When did all this become about immigrants, I thought the issue was about illegal immigrants?

#1. They are not illegal immigrants. The proper term is Illegal ALIEN.
#2. If you are here illegally, then you have no RIGHTS, therefore no right to protest.
#3. Go back to your country and come here legally and you will be treated with respect.
#4. If you don't like your country and everyone there wants to have it like we do in America, then get together and make the changes necessary to make your country the way you want it.
#5. If you work for $4.oo/hr, don't complain! You shouldn't be here anyways.

OK....now,
If you come to this country legally you won't be working for $4.00/hr. Why is that??? BECAUSE that is below minimum wage. RIGHTS anyone. Right now YOU DON'T HAVE ANY!!!

I think that both sides are wrong. The lawmakers are stupid to try and pass laws that exclude the children of illegal aliens from getting things like in-state tuition in public universities. If we don�t allow them to go to school and better their situation in life then we are forcing them into a lot of minimum wage jobs with no future or a life of crime because those will be their options. I also think that we Americans need to realize that if the illegal aliens were all deported tomorrow, produce, meat and hotel prices would go through the roof.

On the other hand, I agree that the illegal immigrants have no right to protest or complain. When they pay income tax, vote, participate in the PTA and serve on the School Board, City Counsel and jury duty, then they�ll have earned the right to complain and protest. The Hispanic people come to this country wanting the benefits of citizenship without the corresponding responsibilities. They�ve created a subculture that makes Americans uneasy, and rightfully so; who wants to feel like a foreigner in their own country?

When it comes down to it though, nothing is going to change. There will continue to be a large amount of illegal aliens in this country as long as the economic situations in Mexico and the USA continue to be so different. The illegal Hispanic aliens know that, even though they whine about how cold, uptight and racist Americans are, they have nothing to go back to in Mexico and will fight tooth and nail to stay here where they at least have a chance to survive and maybe even have a nice life.

And it damn sure sounds great to me. I can weather the storm. I�ll pay twice as much for a salad, and re-fill my own damn water glass. A day without immigrants? Hell, I welcome it. Bring it on� stretch it out a few days. Let�s see how long they can take it. Keep your kids out of school and see what they get. How long will you be able to bunker in your overcrowded house until the rent money is due? To the dirty under-handed pricks trying to sneak in or lie and cheat their way in, screw you all. Go back the fuck where you came from be it Mexico, Cuba, Canada, Korea, or France and wait until you�ve gone through the motions to get in legally. If you are LEGAL, I have absolutely NO problem with you.

Alot of you speaking hatred toward "illegals" have no idea and cannot seem grasp what hardships one goes thru to live maybe half as good as what your currently living. EFFUM ALL you probably got spoon fed all your life. Mommy and Daddy always supplying you with money..your spoiled little bitch. You wouldn't last a month doing half the jobs illegal immigrants due. Half of these illegals have paid taxes thru what is called a TIN number (I believe), it is designed to have those with no SSN to complete taxes every year. All you ignorant fucks need to remember these people built you home. Their sweat, their blood helped make you foundation. No let me clear something up...I am not for allowing all immigrants to come to america, but If you going improve the border along mexico due the same along canada. Allow amnesty to those here and due a better job of keeping more of them out. There is a problem but deporting hundreds and thousands, most of have been here longer then those reading this, that is a crime. This all started with them dam terrorist, latin americans don't come to North america to bomb people but to work, Work 9 out of 10 americans denied..so they had to turn to who will do it; and those that do it impact day to day lifes in business's, markets, etc.
I am tired of you dumb patriotic bullshit...especially since this country was built on lies, betrayal, and most importantly by hundreds and thousands of Illegal immigrants.

BITCHES....

I think the Hispanic immigrants effort could be detrimental to all the other immigrant groups such as the European, Middle-Eastern, Asian and other immigrants. Because of it the majority of the fallout will be aimed squarely at the Latinos. I'm afraid they really are "biting the hand that feeds them" and will regret it.

Well "Loyalty", allow me to respond to your crack induced views. First off, I couldn't give a rat's fat ass how hard one has to work to live half as well as I do. But I'm not going to complain if I only work half as hard and live twice as well. Those are the breaks, and there's not a damn thing YOU can do about it. Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em hard... fuck 'em deep.

If you consider growing up the legitimate child of middle-class married parents, having regular medical checkups by a family physician, going to good public schools that weren't busting at the seams and enjoying my American capitalist pig lifestyle to be "spoon fed", well there you have it. Don't hate me because I had it. And yeah, Mom and Dad gave me a pretty good allowance for doing all the things a kid did to earn an allowance. While I did okay, Paris Hilton I ain't.

You don't know how long I would last doing a job an illegal immigrant does, because I don't know. What I do know is that it's a wide expanse of dire circumstances for me to cross before I ever have to give it any thought. Besides, Peppy Sanchez will beat me to it, anyway so why worry?

Funny you should mention my house. I had a licensed contractor make improvements on my home over the last few years. I'm sure a good deal of the work was probably done by Pancho, Lefty and his cousin Alberto. I paid the contractor good money, and would imagine the labor got taken care of, but it isn't really my problem is it?

Deal with it, fool. This is my motherfucking country. This is how I live. You on the other hand can get the fuck out on the next rocket ride. Be sure to take Madre with you.

Ill start by saying sorry, I dont know HTML so this will more than likely show up as a huge rambling paragraph. You have got to be kidding me. When did this become a thread on "illegal *Place race here* immigrants"? There are by far, considerably more than JUST *place Race here* illegal immigrants. Again this thread, if you bothered to read the title is on "illegal immigrants". Perhaps you need to scroll back to the top and re-read the topic.

Whos Racist? Your ignorance and your seperation. Funny how I see the starter on here for singling out a race was, infact, a member of that race. Who singled out Hispanics from the immigrants? Who's singling out anyone? Its a Blanket statement "illegal immigrants". How did race suddenly get singled out? Honestly.

$4 an hour? Odd... Minimum wage is more than $5 in ALL states! If you are being paid $4 an hour, you are being paid under the table. If thats the case, technically, that's illegal too. For example. Tax evasion, you know..."Taxes"... part of your "Payment" (if you will) to be in and support this Country, and its Illegals and poor I should add. Also, no one forced you to settle for minimum wage anyhow. YOU choose that. How's this (including my banter) an immigration issue? its not...Moving on...

Im not about to walk into your home and say "Hey, I need a room, a Bath room, meals 4 times a day, laundry done and spending money" Thats abserd.

So is asking for, not only, "free rights", but additonal rights in a country you're not even part of (yet). Our government dosen't say "NO IMMIGRANTS". It says no to "ILLEGAL Immigrants". Keyword there being "Illegal".

This Country offers "Freedom", from the laws of another country. Not "Free rights". Why the hell does everyone misunderstand what "Freedom" means? People...its called Marketing.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing) Our country wants people to come here. We're advertising "Freedom" as in "FREEDOM from YOUR countrys laws" Like if I went to amsterdam. Im "Free" to smoke pot. Here it's illegal. If I do it, its punishable by the laws of THIS country.

I'd never expect to enter a country and have that place speak my language, and give me free health care, nor even a program for me to work. If they do so be it, lucky me. If not, and If I choose to try and live there, Im also choosing to abide by their laws, and follow their procedures. If I dont like their procedure or find it too difficult I still have options. Lets say...oh I dunno...Go back to MY country, or try another. If I want out of mine so bad, I'll make sure I dont have to go back. But that in no way means another country HAS to give me what I want, I have to earn it, or choose another place to live.

Comments...

Ester ~
Now Hun, This is all my opnion, but...I highly doubt an employer would put their business at risk for "Racisim" accusations by allowing "Mexicans" off for the day. Imagine how much money they could be sued for over a "National" (ha!ha!) political protest that was organized like a bunch of . If your topic is on race, your on the wrong thread. This thread is on "illegal immigrants", again...not Illegal "Mexicans". Also Your the one who separated your race from everyone else, your thread shows you are uneducated in the entire topic, and only from word one to the last Period. Way to prove your point Ms. Racist.

Who Him ~
Your just weird. One moment you make perfect sence, the next Im like...Wha...What? Your prolly good conversation. Like 2 friends in one. Haha, Just kidding, you know what i mean.

Loyalty ~
I understand your protest. I may not agree, But you understand the topic. Thanks!

Eduardo ~
Kid...this isnt actually about "Im *place Race here* and proud." Come back when you understand what this is really about. Would Love your Input when you are educated on this topic.

John ~
Thank you for being specific. "Illegals".

Ryan ~
We are have to educate Illegal kids why exactly? Hell Man, we dont even educate our own.

All ~
I dont even LIKE politics. as a matter of fact I DISPISE it. Its just not my forte. Why the hell do I get it?!?!

Please. Lemme hear your feed back...

Loyalty ~
Good lord man you are one unhappy hateful individual. You dispise the country you live in? Why are your HERE then. there are OTHER countries you can go to and be happy at. Not too LAZY, to travel are you? now that Doesnt mean you will always have a ride. Your a strapping young man, Im sure your strong legs work. Im just a scrawney chic. I've done it before, and I've done it just for fun. Now If I was as unhappy and hateful here as you sound. I'd make sure I "earn" my happiness and my walk my unhappy arse out of an unhappy place.

Effmall ~
Although your rather Harsh and in your face about it. Good points on your opnion. Im not sittin here cryin over Some trillionaires thats like comparing apples to oranges. Not BooHoo I was born in the wrong tax bracket. I'm lookin at the topic and how it effects mee.

Here's a thought...(to go with the countless others...)

What happens if the millions of illegals become legal?

Employers will have to pay all the "new" employee's a legal wage rather than what they paid under the table. The catch is that if another person comes along who speaks english, has transportation, and a high school degree and/or GED who do you think is going to get the job? If the employer is going to have to pay a full wage then he will probably not go with the person who barely speaks english, has little to no education, and has a way to get to work on their own rather than being picked up on the corner or in front of Home Depot.

If the ex-illegal has been able to keep his job...Congrats and welcome to America. You now have to pay taxes like the rest of us. OH...and don't think for a second that you won't have too or that employer will let you slide on like the old days. Especialy now that he is responsible for you legaly as an employer! He was paying you $4 an hour before don't think for a moment he's going pay a fine or go to jail for tax fraud to make you extra money. They didn't care about you as a person before they really wont now. Those taxes will come out of your check automaticaly and will probably amount to less than you were making under the table. Ah!!! America, gotta love it. You might just get $200 back at the end of the year.

My point is that the sad fact is that the only real reason ilegal immigrants have been allowed to stay for all these years is cheap labor they don't have to care about. I am not pointing this at any one race. It happens to all illegal immigrants...Latinos, Asian, European. etc...

I've realized I wrote a lot, and thank you for spending, even if its two seconds glancing at what I wrote. If it helps, you help me, and you wrote it with me, we sing the same song, even if we disagree!

Alright, hello.
For those against immigration, I would ask a question that is not being asked, and that is Why are all these people immigrating to the U.S. now, more so than ever, and why is it that they cannot get documentations and thus be legal? I can give you a hint. It is for economic reasons, but we know that, but why so much immigration now? Could it be the effects of NAFTA (yes) Could it be with economic injustices being carried out by Free Trade, aka Global Markets that undercut local markets, that push them out of business, thus destroying local economics, and filtering of the money into International/American corporations ( mmm yea ...) And leaving the people of such regions without any means to survive? and what if you could work really hard some place and you could have a plate of food every night, and you could send your children to school and have basic living conditions, that are being prevented by mainly corporations, and usually installed American pro-trade puppet governments, would you not go to that plate of food?

What did our ancestors do? some came for reasons similar, and some came as slaves...right?

Can you speak against such a people or peoples that have suffered so much? Knowing all they want is to work, and make a decent wage, and fall in love, and have a family� to live? If you�re against immigration, then look to Free Trade, American Imperialism, The World Bank and the Economic Globalization, and its effects. It is basic knowledge why immigrants come to the U.S.A., many of immigrants have no other choice, and many of them have family in the United States and cannot be with there loved ones. What will they do? They don't have the money to come here legally (witch is highly expensive and takes decades to receive such visas and residencies) What will they do. . . for love, for life? For a chance to be free from the economic restraints of economic globalization by a few companies that exploit people as slaves similar to that of America in the 1700s, and I'm not just talking Mexico, but the world. Why do you think Europe is facing this issue like a tidal wave, France is becoming black! Africans are coming to France faster than you can say �hola�. Why? Look to economics, and how it is being used on planet Earth, to increase Power and Wealth for those who have it. And the divide is growing quick even in "America". look at the CEOs of Exxon Mobile, look to the Walmarts, they are all around, growing power and strength to a new future where conquering the world isn't a dream, but a reality, and already in many ways has happened. And this is what globalization means, and we know, we as a people of this planet know that we cannot trust anyone with power, they are bound to be corrupt, and deeply sick, addicted to power, and do not understand life it self. Compassion, sorrow, love, and reality does not compute into their thoughts, CEOs, Governments, and anyone who posses power do not have this ability, and therefore need serious mental help.
The immigrant "issue" is only an effect of something more, something that proceeds any time in humanity. I believe that all immigrants are legal, no matter what the law says (that sounds funny, but think of who are making the laws!). There is a belief that Globalization and Free Trade are alright, as long as people don't feel that there home is the world. Money can immigrate, Armies can immigrate, but people trying to survive cannot. This is wrong. This is our planet and we, as humanity need to start acting like it, and get rid of power junkies that will suck us dry and leave us for dead with a hang over of a nuclear holocaust. I�m serious, and I know you are too. We need to do all we can to prevent this from happening.

with love,
Sam

Sorry that My message was repeat 3 times, I have never posed before. I didn'y know what I was doing. Dont read 3 times you'll not be greatly entertained.

Oh, one more thing, I live in Chicago, and if you know your history on May day, May 1st that is, then you realize the historic march.
1887 - 8 hour work day, the start, and if it was not for 1887 in Chicago, May first, life in the United States and the world might not exist with it's working class, middle class life styles.

Oh, one more thing, I live in Chicago, and if you know your history of May 1st, then you realize the historic march.
1887 - 8 hour work day, the start, and if it was not for 1887 in Chicago, May first, life in the United States and the World would not be the same. Oh, in 1887 the protesters, the heros of the birth of so many things, including the struggle towards the 8 hour work week, that we enjoy today was fought for by immigrants! immigrants! immigrants! at that time mainly German, Italian, and a mixture of Eastern European nations!

Immigrants! fighting for civil rights, not only for themselves, but for all peoples of the Americas! even you, me, and cosin Danny! This is a march not only for new immigrants, becouse we all are, but of civil and human rights! if your against humanity stay at home, or do whatever you do, but if you want to stand with humanity, if you are willing to walk, and be present at a historic day, that will reconnect people to a greater outlook, then go to the march and rallies on this, the First of March.

The more I read about the "Day without Immigrants", the angrier I get. I won't even go into the fact that most people now born here were born from people who were, at some time, LEGAL immigrants. Nor will I mention that the Constitution makes no guarantee of any kind to allow people to illegally enter the US and then stay. And no mention of either the fact that the world economy has changed, meaning the US doesn't need illiterate people with strong backs, like it did in the 1700's and 1800's. The Cato Institute's studies show that the number of immigrants with "very low educational levels" has been increasing. We don't need these people. We're better than that now. We need highly-educated workers, and for those whose intelligence and skills only allow them to do low-level jobs, we need decent wages for those people to allow them to lead a respectable life. Illegal immigrants push down wages for everyone. Citizens unfortunately want it all: cheap stuff, but no jobs lost to China. Cheap food, but no higher payment for farm workers. Cheap hotel rooms, but low-paid housekeepers. Trust me ... from my own work experience, I know that if you look for the highest level of skill in each job class and pay well for it, you get a better workforce. An illegal immigrant from any country who is willing to accept $4 or $5 an hour will never get you efficiency, a living wage for all, or anything else. If you add to that the fact that illegal immigrants, particularly, send back to their home countries BILLIONS of dollars, how is this a net benefit for the US economy? We are insane to let these people stay here. Take the hit for a year or two, raise wages, and you'll see legal immigrants and native-born citizens taking the jobs that "no one wants." It's not the work no one wants, it's the pay.

And as for the "day without immigrants" (which has really turned into a "day without illegal aliens or Hispanic workers", could all those people do a few more things for me and the country? Let May 1 be a day when no immigrant gets to call 911 for help of any kind. Let May 1 be a day when no immigrant is allowed to attend a public school or university. Make it a day when no immigrant receives hospital or emergency room treatment. Make it a day when they do not get subsidized transportation on buses. Make it a day when they cannot wire US$ out of the country. Make it a day when, magically, every school in America knows how many teachers and classrooms it would need if there were no illegal immigrants or children of illegal immigrants in classrooms. Make it a day when no illegal immigrants are involved in illegal activity (including crossing our borders). And as for the millions they want in the streets ... well, millions of Nazis supported harsh regimes against Jews by being out in the streets. An illegal act is not made legal just because a lot of people stand around in the streets and yell (probably not even in English). If a billion people supported something that was morally wrong, or illegal, does that make it right?

The US owes nothing to people who cross our borders illegally. The day has had its effect on me - I plan to contribute to the best organizations I can find fighting illegal immigration

Most of the European immigrants from the past were treated far worse than the Mexicans could ever be treated.
The way I see it, if you want to become a citizen do it legally.
Go right ahead, take off monday!
It going to be nice to actually speak to a person at taco bell who speaks and understands ENGLISH!!
It's our way or the highway "Paco"!

Miranda - you GO girl! I totally agree with you. Ask me nicely, and with respect and I'll give you the shirt off my back. Don't DEMAND anything, especially if you're in my country illegally...as far as I'm concerned, although everyone is entitled to HUMAN rights, nobody has rights in this country to demand anything unless they are legal CITIZENS of this or any country. How dare you demand rights you aren't entitled to? Go back to your own country and demand whatever you want....if your country sucked so bad, I suggest you do what you can to change it from the inside, instead of ILLEGALLY coming to MY country and waiving your flag in my face while you DEMAND civil rights. Civil Rights entails CITIZENSHIP, which no illegal has. Do it the right way, and God bless you, but to come to MY country and DEMAND anything? Screw you.

Miranda, isn't Miranada a latina name? and please don't insult the integrity of latinos by compairing them to Nazis. That was an outlandish point, that is spoken by hatred. I hope you can read your own writing and really see the hatefull language that you use. No matter what your opinion is, whelter you understand the issue of immigration or notor not, please show so integrity and respect for other people aand cultures.
Read your writing, and try to be swept away by hatred.

Miranda, isn't Miranada a latina name? and please don't insult the integrity of latinos by compairing them to Nazis. That was an outlandish point, that is spoken by hatred. I hope you can read your own writing and really see the hatefull language that you use. No matter what your opinion is, whelter you understand the issue of immigration or not, please show so integrity and respect for other people aand cultures.
Read your writing, and try not to be swept away by hatred.

Sammy D i respect your opinion/views...pro or cons this blog is not going to change nothing..all the supporters see you monday...the rest of you , see you in Hell.

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I'm so sorry to disappont you, Sammy D. You seem so confused! To answer your points, if you're able to understand: a) Miranda is not a "latina" name, unless by that you mean its origin was Latin, a language that predated both the nations of Spain and Mexico, and the concept of being a "latina" by a thousand years or so. b) It is always popular to use the term "Nazi" or to draw comparisons with Nazis by anyone hoping to make a point, and it detracts from the real evil that they did. So I'll retract that and make a broader point - that no matter how many millions of people take to the street, it does't mean they're right.

I'll stick to the rest of my points. People in this nation respect and value the contributions of immigrants. People in this nation should NOT support people who come here illegally. Those people made a conscious and deliberate choice. They were not taken from their country and enslaved here. They were not transported here as prisoners to work here. Both those things happened here and in other countries. They made a conscious and deliberate decision to come here and take anything they could, because conditions in their own country were bad. That's worthy of sympathy, and worthy of our charity, and maybe worthy of our government reaching out to help those countries be less needy. But it doesn't mean that I have to support their "right" to be here, or their "right" to education, or their "right" to anything else. Citizens of any country have both rights and obligations, which are balanced. My country could, if needed, draft me or any other citizen. They could impose other requirements on me that as a citizen, I would have to obey, or LEGALLY work to change. An illegal immigrant has none of those obligations, and the Constitution of the US does not provide any right to immigrate, and certainly no right to break our laws and come here illegally. If you ignore the legal foundation of the country, then what else do you plan to ignore? Presumably the idea is that numbers make something right. Well, that's just wrong.

And also, Sammy D., I think your comments indicate that you are not a very capable reader. You are trying to infer that because I disagree with your point of view, I must not have respect for other people and cultures. That's untrue, and nothing I wrote would imply that. I understand you're clearly too sensitive to be a good reader, and like many people trying to "debate" this issue, you close your ears to anything you disagree with. But please tell me ... what culture supports breaking the laws? What culture says that people should get to steal and not be punished for the theft? What culture says that one group of people should be burdened with the problems of another group -not out of charity, but just BECAUSE the group with problems demands it? If you can find one, tell me about it ... and then I'll still disagree with them. Disagreement doesn't equal disrespect.

The "boycott" is so stupid. Hurt businesses all you want ... it's mainly business owners who WANT illegal aliens to come here. Businesses in construction, farm work, janitorial work, and many other low-skilled trades are glad to have illegal aliens here. They get to produce a cheaper product because of cheap labor, they don't have to hire someone born here who is unskilled but needs a job, and they don't have to provide benefits. Those of us who are legal immigrants or were born here get a good deal and a bad deal: we get cheap fruit, and cheap hotel rooms, and cheaper homes, and so on. Then we pay higher taxes to fund schools for the children of the illegals, and pay for language classes for them, and pay for their trips to the emergency room through higher insurance, and for the police to enforce the laws and the border patrol to watch the border. And the wages the illegals earn? Well, at $5/hour it's not much of a contribution to the GDP. They buy some food and clothes and used stuff, and that's nice, and then then send home $ to their families, where the money completely vanishes from the US economy.

It may be selfish, but yes, I would rather have unskilled people who are citizens of this country get a living wage to do work here, and pay some higher prices for the products, and overall have a better society, than have cheap strawberries and millions of unskilled illegal aliens, from any country, here. I have to put the welfare of my country above that of other countries. We needed strong backs in 1800. We need smart brains today. Harsh? Yes. But just because something is true, don't try and say it's hateful. The US doesn't need those illegal aliens. People who emigrate are on one of two sides of the ability scale: very highly-skilled, or unskilled. Middle class people from other countries aren't sneaking into the US, they are staying and being successful in their own countries. Highly skilled people - engineers and doctors and computer specialists and so on - come here for the challenge of the work and the life. Unskilled people come illegally ... because we have enough native born unskilled people to already constitute a social problem.

For all of you who can't seem to post a blog without profanity or saying that the other "side" is going to hell or something, I feel profound pity. This is a complicated issue, and very emotional. I admit to feeling deep anger over it. But I'm not feeling guilt-ridden, and I'm not hate-filled. Poor people in other countries deserve my charity, if I CHOOSE to give charity. They deserve the US's help, if we CHOOSE to help. But forcing us to do something just because they broke the laws and then don't like the consequences? I'll never support that. And as for Monday, you know what? I don't care how many fruit markets aren't open, or how many truckers stay off the roads, or how many people march. What will it do? Create a few traffic jams. Every business in the country has had to close for weather or an electical outage or 40 other things. This is the world's largest economy. Monday won't even be a blip on the radar - who cares if there aren't any strawberries at Vons or I have to wait in line an extra 10 minutes at some store? Big deal. But the hatred this is stirring up will be a lot harder to forget.

A reply to "loyalty", who seems to think that the more profanity he or she can use, the better the point made. You suggest that we should do something with the Canadian border if we're also controlling the Mexican border? Well, sorry to burst your bubble of ignorance, but have you ever heard in your whole life of someone from Canada coming here illegally? You've turned this into an issue of illegal aliens from Mexico, and I agree they're the biggest problem. But Canada? Give me a break - that simply shows how stupid you are. Canadians are, by and large, well-educated and well-paid. They aren't pouring into the country and breaking our laws. I can't help it if Mexico has an antiquated political system, a hugely inefficient labor force, an over-regulated market, corruption everywhere, poor education, and so on. That's not my problem - it's the problem of Mexican citizens. And Mexican citizens should stay home and fix their own place first, before coming here illegally and then having the nerve to rant and protest about my opinions, or those of any other US citizen. Whether you, "loyalty" are a legal or illegal citizen, I don't know. But what I do know is that you are a profoundly ignorant person, with little education and a big mouth. No matter what country you're from, I doubt you're making much of a contribution in any way - social, economic, personal, or political.

To: Miranda,
Your lines of compassion,

"but the hatred this stirring up will be a lot harder to forget."

"We don't need these people"

My comment: Native Americans did not, by any means need the Europeans. And you are of European decent, I'm assuming? Your family entered without being �a legal" and never asked the Native Americans for permission to be a citizen? If they came "legal" (under European rule) after the land was stolen from the Native Americans, What happen to the Native Americans? ... Genocide. The worse thing that has ever happened and it keeps happening, I don�t know about us as people sometimes, Miranda. I think that if I was ever against immigration, it was European Immigration, and I was apart of the European Immigration (at least on my father�s side). But Immigrants today are of a different sort than the Europeans of the 1700s. They come not to kill or conquer, or as missionaries to save the Natives from themselves, nor are they slave owners. I�m sure there were and there were a lot of working class folks from Europe coming in the 1700s, and I�m sure there are a lot of similarities we can come up with, but lets not forget the dark past of America.
The immigrants of today come because their livelihood has been destroyed by colonization and Free Trade. They come because of U.S. terrorism, that the U.S. government has been responsible for (not the people, because if you're looking for democracy, don't look to the United States!) destabilizing and simple destroying their nation. They come because there are no other alternatives. My family (mom�s side) came here from, Poland. To stay in Poland would be death. In modern day, it is because of Globalization run by corporations looking for their profits and U.S. imperialism looking for power. I believed I wrote about this earlier.
I would like to state that YOU ARE NOT "SUPERIOR" (a Nazi or White Supremacist attitude) you seem to believe that you are entitled to more rights than any other persons of any other land or culture because you have been blessed by being of someone who is privileged by being born in the United States, and did you fight in any revolutions? No, you did not. The reason people are against immigration is that they do not understand the effects of globalization. That people of other nations that were previously colonized by European nations and the United States cannot have democracy because of the present U.S. intervention within their country. Look to Latin America for an example, start with Guatemala, move to Nicaragua, What about Haiti? then to Mexico, and don�t forget to look to all of the nations in South America. The main flaw in your argument is that there is no consideration, representation, or knowledge of globalization and the economic realities that comes with globalization and the affects that led it to starvation, poverty, of a people that gives a people no real choice but to immigrate into a society that they could literally survive in. This is why there are some much emotions behind this reality. It is impossible (unless of a global effort) to change the working conditions and better wages in foreign countries due to the U.S. government�s involvement and U.S. corporations control over them.
Wake up from your slumber! Please! The world needs you! I can tell you are a smart person and you know about what I�m saying! You have shown your whit, you can write and think! so look to the evidence, look to truth. Plug yourself into humanity and stop playing the nationalist game! We are one planet, one race, we are a people of this planet. So I will leave you with one question.
Can we as a people survive without killing and hating ourselves? or will we as a people commit suicide, and welcome the apocalypse as a mushroom cloud?

with love,
Sammy D

I will continue to question the U.S. government and their policies, questioning and holding them acountable for their crimes is as American as any one can be.

"What culture supports breaking the laws? What culture says that people should get to steal and not be punished for the theft? What culture says that one group of people should be burdened with the problems of another group -not out of charity, but just BECAUSE the group with problems demands it?" - Miranda

- a culture that can think and not judge, a culture that asks questions and tries to understand the "Why?" and not use such words as ?Evil? ? a culture that takes the time to understand why, and how we can, as a culture, reach a solution to the problems we have, without demonizing other people, without repeating injustices.

?b) It is always popular to use the term "Nazi" or to draw comparisons with Nazis by anyone hoping to make a point, and it detracts from the real evil that they did. So I'll retract that and make a broader point - that no matter how many millions of people take to the street, it does't mean they're right.? - Miranda

- This is demonizing other people as ?Evil? I?m glad you caught that, this is what not needs to happen in culture, nation, or people, because this type of dialogue leads to the ?Evil? that you speak of within ones own culture.

Please be aware, I mean no disrespect, I?m worried that too many of us in the United States are falling for this kind of language, and becoming something we are not. We are a people who feel that to help one another is the greatest quality one could have. I know it is difficult. I fight with myself everyday to keep strong, and not to become hateful. Hate is a trap, we must always be aware of it. We must, and mean must not let hate win within our voices and minds, we as people must strive to come to peace, within ourselves and within the world. - a culture without hate.

Sorry, Sammy D. Your arguments don't convince me of the need to allow people to break the law. The arguments that because people 200 or 300 years ago did something wrong (i.e. slavery or colonization) gives modern day people some kind of automatic rights are bad ones that lead to even worse decisions. Please don't bring up the outdated "Europeans killed the natives" argument - it's irrelevant. History from the dawn of time is filled with the history of the winners - the losers have, since man first stood up straight, been taken over or wiped out or had bad things happen to them. Does that mean I'd support slavery now? No - but I know enough history to know it wasn't just Europeans who had slaves. Native peoples on this continent conquered others and killed the losers or enslaved them. Africans sold the losers of battles to Portuguese slave traders or before that, killed or enslaved them. Jews were enslaved by Egyptians - read the Old Testament. None of that history is useful to support some idea that people illegally crossing the border today should get a handshake and a welcome! And you're saying European immigrants came to "kill or conquer"? A percentage did - but now YOU'RE the one making blanket statements or lying. In South America that was certainly true ... the Spanish and Portuguese came first for gold. In North America, settlers fled religious persecution and came to a very harsh place, where they worked hard. Did they displace native Americans? Yes, but as I just said, they weren't walking into Paradise. In the 18th and 19th and early 20th century, when the US needed strong backs, immigrants came and plowed the fields and worked in factories and saw their kids go to work at 5 and 6 years old. Ok ... so history shows there were bad things, and in this country anyway, things have improved. I can't help it that other countries are plagued by corrupt governments, by governments in love with outdated policies that keep their people in the 19th century.

I completely disagree that illegal aliens are coming here because their countries have been ravaged by globalization. I don't see Canadians coming here because of globalization! Or hordes of Europeans. Or Japanese. Or Israelis. And so on ... If you're talking about Latin America, don't blame the US - or at least, equally blame 400 years of Spanish influence. Countries and cultures that thought the only way to get rich was to pull gold out of the ground and whose religious culture encouraged a dogmatic obedience to authority (i.e. Catholicism vs Protestantism ... see the "Protest" in that religious name) ended up with dependent cultures that haven't been able to catch up. Mexico had an incredible opportunity to be even more growth-oriented by China ... on the borders of a super rich country, no distance barriers to trade ... and the Mexican government has routinely failed to take advantage of the opportunities.

As to your final question, I'll answer it with a "no". People are going to go on killing and hating ... that's in our human nature. It has been that way for 10,000 years. We can hope to develop an advanced enough civilization or enough social and religious controls so that we learn, by training and education, not to do those things. But will letting every person on the planet who is poorer in their own country than in the US come here somehow make the planet, or the US, a better place? Nope, not in my opinion. You and I will disagree on globalization, civilization, and illegal immigration forever, as far as I can tell. I'm willing to side with the US Constitution, and the written constitutions of most nations, which seek to keep out outsiders and protect their own people. I'm fine with that. Is it unfair that so much is dependent on where you were born, on accidents? Yes. That's life. We as people can work to change our own governments, which we created to bring social order to humanity, and that's it. I think it's sad that I wasn't born 6'8" tall with an ability to play basketball so I could be rich, or that I wasn't born with incredible music ability. There are so many things that are merely twists of fate that I could never hope to legislate against them all and improve them. But I think there is a better shot at creating that better and more orderly and humane world when people believe in laws, when people work with their OWN governments to bring about change, when people explore what is wrong in their OWN country first and make changes. Please don't say that I am slumbering or that I don't understand or that because I didn't fight in the 1776 revolution that I'm somehow not getting your point of view. I do get it - but I reject it. I think you're well-meaning, but wrong.

I believe that we are not to consider mexicans in all aspects of what is afffecting immigrants. There are other immigrants too. I am one of them. I am sometimes forgotten in the news, in my culture because mexicans steal the show. if you don't know hispanics faced mexico in the united states, even if we are not from that country. if you watch the new in spanish, they are all about mexico, if you read the newspaper is all about mexico, all tv commercials are targetting mexicans. and most people speak a very bad spanish with a mexican accent. now immigration news are on, and they target the mexican immigrant.

I joined in solidarity with the rest of immigrants who want to tell their stories, because in a way we are left out by the mexican.

yes, I agree Mexican government is not doing anything. they support immigration to the US, but do you know what's so so... so... ironic. Immigrants who need to travel through mexico face hell. Mexican authorities treat immigrants in very humilating ways. And they are blaiming US for their acts of evil. Mexicans are demonds if they know you are not one of them in mexico. About US having nothing to do with Latin America's history. you need to read about it. In many ways americans are very ignorant about Latin America, and don't know much about the diversity of cultures in that region of the world thanks to the mexicans who make the latin american world all look like mexico.

Americans,as such are all immigrants in the first place,if not colonists.....
i wonder why this hue and cry for the immigrants.

Miranda,

"and whose religious culture encouraged a dogmatic obedience to authority (i.e. Catholicism vs Protestantism ... see the "Protest" in that religious name)"

Hah! I laughed out loud at that one. Ah, how the times have changed, no?

Thank you Nicole.

Thank you Nicole.

I'm the grandson of immigrants, immigrants that cared enough about making their lives better to go through the proper channels to become legal citizens. Despite how difficult that process was or the heartships they faced in the interim, they knew doing things the right way instead of standing around bitching.

To all those immigrants who have such a problem with how you are treated in this country I have but one thing to say. "Illegal Immigrant". There are ways to come to this country and become a citizen WITHOUT doing it illegally. CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL 12 MILLION OF YOU!!!

There are perfectly legitimate ways to go about obtaining the legal right to be in this country. If you aren't going about that process and you are from another country (and not just a tourist)you are in violation of the law of this country. Period.

Gettin whiny and pissy and orginizing yourself like this is the second Civil Rights movement is assinine, this is not that fight.

To those folks on here who are immigrants, and who are enjoying shoving that prepackaged "what about us?" mantra down everyone's throats, bitch all you want, you're still breaking the law.

I'm the grandson of immigrants, immigrants that cared enough about making their lives better to go through the proper channels to become legal citizens. Despite how difficult that process was or the heartships they faced in the interim, they knew doing things the right way instead of standing around bitching.

To all those immigrants who have such a problem with how you are treated in this country I have but one thing to say. "Illegal Immigrant". There are ways to come to this country and become a citizen WITHOUT doing it illegally. CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL 12 MILLION OF YOU!!!

There are perfectly legitimate ways to go about obtaining the legal right to be in this country. If you aren't going about that process and you are from another country (and not just a tourist)you are in violation of the law of this country. Period.

Gettin whiny and pissy and orginizing yourself like this is the second Civil Rights movement is assinine, this is not that fight.

To those folks on here who are immigrants, and who are enjoying shoving that prepackaged "what about us?" mantra down everyone's throats, bitch all you want, you're still breaking the law.

I've worked for the same company for 11 years now.
Within this time I have worked closely with others from other countries. A South African gentlemen, a New Zealanders, and a Latino. The South African had a work visa who later became a citizen of the USA. The New Zealander's work visa ran out and was here illegally. He continued to work with my employers with false paper work. He later sought a lawyer and became a citizen as well. My Latino friend who was illegal, had the same opportunities as the other 2 gentlemen. The South African gentleman drove him down to a lawyer to help with his citizenship. He refuse after finding it would have cost him $5,000 in paperwork and fees.
My Latino friend had came across the border 4 times within that 11 years he's worked for us. Even though he had fake documentation he wasn't making $4.00 and hour. He made $12.00 at that time. He didn't have to work in the sun, he screwed around all day indoors with the rest of us lazy Americans.

The problem here is he would disappear about every two years back to Mexico. Then he would pay $1,000 to $2,500 to people who would sneak him across the border. Then end up back on our doorstep wanting a job again.
The money he wasted crossing the border could have easily have been spent for legal assistance to become a citizen.

He is now back in the states again for a 5th time. And is inquiring for work with my employers. I spoke in favor of my friend to come back and work. But my employers have had enough. They need a dependable worker for the long term.
And it's hard to employ someone who is illegal now, it's just not worth the fines.
My friend who has been married had two children born in the states. And learning his family is back in Mexico on his 5th return without them, definitely tells me he won't be here that long again.

Unfortunately, this situation happens allot. A citizen of Mexico will work as long as he can in the states. Sending some money back to Mexico and later returning to Mexico without ever trying or becoming a US citizen.
This I don't agree with and angers me. As a US citizen who works and pays taxes I feel used. And so do allot of other Americans. Maybe someone can educate me on this behavior.

America is from the patagonia to alaska so are en American?They call us illegal alien "different Planet" I do not think so, we are getting back what was taken.
Donot forget that you may be the son or daughter of an immigrant.We are just taking the iniative for you, join us

I just want to say that Miranda is a credit to women all across America.

I just want to say that Miranda is a credit to women all across America.

Attention all street Pharmacists. June 1, 2006 will be a day without Drug Dealers. There will be a national boycott all throughout the U.S.A Please attend and support our causes. The local police departments will have less work, court systems will shut down early due to lack of cases, and our children will be alot safer. Please support our causes.

Wow, great topic since it touches so many lives. 12 million people living in a country illegally, pretty amazing! Do any of you against the right for these people to be in America honestly think they can be deported?? Good luck!

I think that the fact is that this influx of people has been happening because America has wanted these people (well, business anyway). If this is not true, why is this topic being debated at such a late stage? The people didn't all arrive last week.

If you are against the illegal immigrant, blame the government for not controlling the borders or working with the other countries to control this. Blame exploitation of companies on workers. Don't blame the people.

If you are proud of America and happy with the country you are now living in, accepting people who are currently living with you shouldn't be such a big deal.

I love the US. I think the thing that is so great is we can say and do as we please. FREEDOM!!! It is clear to me that some of you do not realize that MOST country's don't allow citizins to say and do as they please without consequences. People risk their lives "not only Mexicans" to come here and be free and help others at home, and provide for their family's. Dear people don't you think if they could come legally they would? Why would they risk everything to come here if it was so easy to come safely with the proper papers? Because, Their country's have made it impossiable. Think about it.

I love the US. I think the thing that is so great is we can say and do as we please. FREEDOM!!! It is clear to me that some of you do not realize that MOST country's don't allow citizins to say and do as they please without consequences. People risk their lives "not only Mexicans" to come here and be free and help others at home, and provide for their family's. Dear people don't you think if they could come legally they would? Why would they risk everything to come here if it was so easy to come safely with the proper papers? Because, Their country's have made it impossiable. Think about it.

Like it or not 11 million immigrants are living in the US without papers. The only logical thing to do is legalize them. Provide them with a path to citizenship and collect taxes from them. Making them felons is just about the stupidest thing i have ever heard. What would we do next? Put them in jail? Not very practical. This country can't accomplish tasks a lot easier than rounding up 11 million people and jailing or deporting them.
Additionally, it is my opinion that the government is making tons of money on human smuggling. I personally know boarder patrol officers who are not allowed to do their job of stopping people crossing into this country...And i wonder why?

Like it or not 11 million immigrants are living in the US without papers. The only logical thing to do is legalize them. Provide them with a path to citizenship and collect taxes from them. Making them felons is just about the stupidest thing i have ever heard. What would we do next? Put them in jail? Not very practical. This country can't accomplish tasks a lot easier than rounding up 11 million people and jailing or deporting them.
Additionally, it is my opinion that the government is making tons of money on human smuggling. I personally know boarder patrol officers who are not allowed to do their job of stopping people crossing into this country...And i wonder why?

I'm really looking forward to tomorrow:



I'll be able to get up 20 minutes later since the freeways in LA will be EMPTY!



I bring my lunch as usual, so no worries about not being able buy food!



We have a large number of immigrants in our office but most aren't Hispanic so I'm betting we'll be mostly staffed.



And after work, I can go to the gym and I won't have to wait to work out on any of the machines.



Maybe we should start a new movement called 'Yes we can.' We've become a too reliant on others to do things on the cheap. So as usual,



I'm mowing my own lawn.
Cleaning my own house.



Can they have a reprise of this rally on a weekend?



I'd love to go to a park in LA and not have to get there at a ridiculous hour to get a picnic table for lunch. And there wouldn't be litter all over the place.



Ah, life would be so sweet!

I think both sides of the argument are interesting, but has anyone even thought of how our government (INS) is incapable of keeping up with the backlog of request. I've heard of people on the list just to become residents being 15+ years long (not to mention becoming a Citizen). The system is broken down and the Mexicans are just working around it. As for the march on May 1, go for it, as African-Americans did decades ago. A stand has to be taken & there is no better time than now. I believe that this is just the first round. In future rounds economies will be changed, republicans will have less seats in the House & Senate, maybe even the future President's post will be changed. Paco might just be your tax paying law abiding neighbor. Hee Heee Heee

get real, anyone that is educated logical and sensible is against illegal immagration.
deport illegals!

legal immagrants welcome to america get a job don't be a tax on the system like our illegal population.
to heck with the pro-illegal supporters they are truely demented folks.

why do illegals want to come here to destroy america. send them back.
signed a second generation american.
p.s none of your foolish ill-logic will work to convince me we need illegals. they are criminals and no more then that and should go back to mexico.
all mexicans support is our privatized prison system. mexicans are the bulk of the violent dangerous criminals on america or they they give birth to them.

get real, anyone that is educated logical and sensible is against illegal immagration.
deport illegals!

legal immagrants welcome to america get a job don't be a tax on the system like our illegal population.
to heck with the pro-illegal supporters they are truely demented folks.

why do illegals want to come here to destroy america. send them back.
signed a second generation american.
p.s none of your foolish ill-logic will work to convince me we need illegals. they are criminals and no more then that and should go back to mexico.
all mexicans support is our privatized prison system. mexicans are the bulk of the violent dangerous criminals on america or they they give birth to them.

ever notice these mexican rights groups sound just like the national socialist of germany? THESE MEXICANS ARE RACISTS! they hate white (never knew white was a race till i heard these bigoted mexican twats tell me so since i have seen pleanty of white skinned hispanics nad blacks and tons of tan and black skinned caucasians) people and black people, american people.

were not stupid america knows your the real racists you illegal scum
signed a spanish desented human being..

Hello, I am a U.S. Citizen and I will be joining the so called (day without immigrants) I was an illegal alien once, so I am doing it not because I am still illegal, I do it because I support them, and let me tell you all (you stupid $ 5.00 Dollar an hour white illiterates) I do not make $ 5.00 an hour like most of you do, and I did pay taxes while I was a wet back, continue to pay taxes now and will always pay taxes,
What a lot of people don't know is that even if you are an illegal alien you are still paying taxes, and about the poor devils working out of the 7-11 or the home depot parking lot they get ripped off by white,black, or mexican contractors, *that don't pay them* it doesn't really matter who is doing the screwing they all take advantage of them, (the illegals).
But let me tell you that what goes around comes around, and yes you should support the illegals getting their legal status changed, another thing about getting free hospital care and putting a burden on social services by the illegals, how stupid of anyone to even say it, you can not get them to spit at you if you do not have a social security or a green card, (the social services will always check that the documents are legal) so, don't throw that stupid line around.
For the most part, the people who say things like that are the ones without knowledge about the issues or people who are filled with racist hate.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL

americans are races and thats not fair cause we mexicans have the right to stay here cause you'll americans dont belong here cause this is the indians land so you'll have to go back from where you'll came from like us and i hate the president like he hates us the mexicans!!semos illegales y no criminalas!!!!im proud to be a mexican que viva la raza!!!GO GO MEXICO!!

americans are races and thats not fair cause we mexicans have the right to stay here cause you'll americans dont belong here cause this is the indians land so you'll have to go back from where you'll came from like us and i hate the president like he hates us the mexicans!!semos illegales y no criminalas!!!!im proud to be a mexican que viva la raza!!!GO GO MEXICO!!

I WILL RESPOND TO THE COMMENT ABOVE, NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE RACIST, YES I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU MEXICANS AS FOR ANY OTHER IMMIGRANT SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HERE, BUT YOU ARE DAMAGING YOUR IMAGE BY STATING THAT THIS IS THE INDIAN LAND AND WE ALL HAVE TO GO BACK, PLEASE READ YOUR HISTORY BOOK, MEXICAN PRESIDENT WHO WAS FROM SPAIN SOLD THIS COUNTRY TO THE AMERICANS FOR A PRICE, THEY BOUGHT AND IT'S THIERS, SO WHAT.... NOW I ASK YOU MY DAD WAS BORN IN AMERICAN AND MY MOM WAS BORN IN COLUMBIA, AND I WAS BORN IN AMERICAN, AND YOUR TELLING US TO "GO BACK FROM WHERE YOU'LL CAME FROM" WHERE SHOULD I GO IF I WAS BORN HERE?

I WILL RESPOND TO THE COMMENT ABOVE, NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE RACIST, YES I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU MEXICANS AS FOR ANY OTHER IMMIGRANT SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HERE, BUT YOU ARE DAMAGING YOUR IMAGE BY STATING THAT THIS IS THE INDIAN LAND AND WE ALL HAVE TO GO BACK, PLEASE READ YOUR HISTORY BOOK, MEXICAN PRESIDENT WHO WAS FROM SPAIN SOLD THIS COUNTRY TO THE AMERICANS FOR A PRICE, THEY BOUGHT AND IT'S THIERS, SO WHAT.... NOW I ASK YOU MY DAD WAS BORN IN AMERICAN AND MY MOM WAS BORN IN COLUMBIA, AND I WAS BORN IN AMERICAN, AND YOUR TELLING US TO "GO BACK FROM WHERE YOU'LL CAME FROM" WHERE SHOULD I GO IF I WAS BORN HERE?

I WILL RESPOND TO THE COMMENT ABOVE, NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE RACIST, YES I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU MEXICANS AS FOR ANY OTHER IMMIGRANT SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HERE, BUT YOU ARE DAMAGING YOUR IMAGE BY STATING THAT THIS IS THE INDIAN LAND AND WE ALL HAVE TO GO BACK, PLEASE READ YOUR HISTORY BOOK, MEXICAN PRESIDENT WHO WAS FROM SPAIN SOLD THIS COUNTRY TO THE AMERICANS FOR A PRICE, THEY BOUGHT AND IT'S THIERS, SO WHAT.... NOW I ASK YOU MY DAD WAS BORN IN AMERICAN AND MY MOM WAS BORN IN COLUMBIA, AND I WAS BORN IN AMERICAN, AND YOUR TELLING US TO "GO BACK FROM WHERE YOU'LL CAME FROM" WHERE SHOULD I GO IF I WAS BORN HERE?

I have read all the things people said in this page, and well i?m not in America and i think the mayority has the wrong idea of why the inmigrants are doing all this. I think they only want respect, as we all deserve, not because they are not legal doesn?t mean they don?t deserve respect. There are a lot of people that leave their country for a "better life" and they get there and work like animals; this doesn?t mean they should be treated like saints because obviously noone is forcing them, but they do it to give something better to their families. People might be indiferent to this or think that this is a big mistake, but maybe we should put ourselvs in their shoes, just for a second, right now inmigrants are having a hard time and they are fighting to get better, don?t we all fight for what we want, for things that we know will make our life better. Inmigrants are being treated like criminals and i don?t think that?s fear, we all need from others, and some Americans might think that inmigrant=problems, just think that some day you might need something from other country and there wont be any help. Remember the movie "The day after tomorrow"?,where all the americans had to move to Mexico, they were desperate to move to Mexico, well i know is only a movie, but there?s a clear example that some day America will need help from other country, maybe not on that same way, but there?s always good times and bad times, so lets respect what the inmigrants are fighting for because you never know when you will have to fight for something. Why don?t you all let the government work things out, you have nothing to lose, and just respect them, you wont help or change things by getting all pissed and insult people. just relax and wait for the response from government, i bet they wont ask YOU what would you like to happen, so relax and wait to see how it feels to have "A day without inmigrants" then you can give your point of view.

I am an immigrant. An immigrant who carries a green card. If you came her illegally, you're not an immigrant. Call yourself what you are ---illegals. Yes you provide a lot for the economy, but you have no right to demand anything. If I came to your home uninvited, who am I to make demands? Everyone who comes here, (USA) come for a better life. Be grateful. You get free educaion and health care which citizens and non-illegals pay for. In the countries of your birth, you COULD NOT have these mass protests with demands, because you would be teargassed, arrested or just ignored.
To the person who said Americans don't belong here, is as ignorant as they come. Why don't he/she throw out the Spanish people (originally from Spain) their colonizers from their countries. It obvious this person needs a serioius history lesson. Instead of protesting, do some reading.

Are you people serious? Illegal immigrants are putting such a hardship on this country. It's hard for me to find work because an illeagal will work for $3.00 an hour off the books. There children are going to our schools for FREE! We have high taxes to pay because they don't pay taxes.

What about social security? When its time for me to retire there will be nothing left. So many illeagals are working and NOT PAYING INTO SOCIAL SECURITY! These people are raping the system. I hope that while they are protesting and doing their marches the department of immigeration comes and picks them up and deports them back to wherever they come from.!!

YOU WANT TO STAY HERE? PAY YOUR TAXES!

A day without illegal aliens jumping our borders, taking our jobs (yes we WILL do them), sucking our social service system dry, jabbering away because they refuse to speak English and blaring their Godforsaken music. Can we AMERICAN CITIZENS please have more days like that.

Bobbi: the only reason they are getting your job is because you are white trash, probably a high school drop out or some idiot who never got an education, otherwise you will not complain about a job that does not pay more than $ 8.00 bucks an hour.
And you are saying that they need to pay social security so that you can collect it, (it sounds to me like you are on welfare or some kind of social program) find a job that pays more than minimal wage (you are white or born here) so why work for $ 8.00 or $ 10.00 an hour) I'm a wet back and I was making $ 12.00 an hour before you could walk, so obviously I can do better than a lot of you "those that I consider trash of the U.S.A."

As an American citizen I find it highly uncomfortable in having American policy dictated to me by people who are illegal aliens. Before all this walkout protest I was okay with illegal aliens in this country. That has now changed. I will conduct my own protest as I will not do business with any company that supports this foreign protest or hires illegals. I will also not support any Mexican companies.

the older i get ...the more conservative i get...whatever happened to GET IN LINE???? if we enforced the labor laws the employers should get stiff fines.....the labor... ie ..illegals would go back to their country.... there are alot more than 11m undocumented workers here ....we should make the rules so that illegals can't get drivers license...can't rent shelter...can't ride the metro without showing workink papers...can't attend school...no welfare....the ones that came here illegally and had kids....should have thought about having to face deportation and the decision to leave their kids .... the illegals that say we are a nation of immigrants... they forgot the words we are a nation of LEGAL immigrants...as far as my house being built by mexicans...only 13% of workers are mexicans...maybe that is why 13% of the homes are substandard!!!! they don't come here to become citizens..there are enough LEGALS to work the jobs that don't pay much...there is a farm workers program to deal with migrant workers.... i say welcome to our country ...JUST GET IN LINE!!!!!!!!!

It really is a great day. Everyday should be a day without immigrants. The traffic is lighter on the roads. When I go to the store, nobody expects me to speak Spanish. Too bad the free clinics and county hospitals couldn't have benefited from this day as well.

The problem is these damn illegals THINK they deserve what they are here for and too many sympathisers agree with them. The Bill of rights and our Constitution apply ONLY to CITIZENS. We were founded on Immagrants, yes. BUT too many of these Illegals have no intrest in becoming Citizens, therein lies thw problem. I have no problem with anyone coming here from another country for a better life IF they do it the right way. My grandfather stood in line at Ellis Island on both sides of the family. They didn;t sneek under fences, hide in ships or otherwise cheat to get here. They came here proudly. The LEARNED ENGLISH proudly. They wanted to be an American and did everything they could to do so. These Immagrants, and Mexicans and Brazillians are the main topic because they are the main problem!, don;t want to learn English. They don;t want to become citizens. They don;t want to abide by our laws, our customs, aour way of life. They want to earn money and make this place a little bit of home.

I live in Massachusettes, or Little Brazil for those of you not in the know. 90% of them here are illegal. They have NO intrest in becoming citizens because there is nothing in it for them. They come here and work for 5 or 10 years ave all their money and go back home to Brazil to live like KINGS! The US dollar is worth so much in Brazil that after 10 years they can support their family for decades!

They are STEALING from our economy, not supplimenting it.

I am insulted and I feel my family and Country are insulted by this behaviour. Do I hate you- NO but I hate what you're doing and that's different!
I will welcome you into my heart IF you do it the proper way- and stop telling me how to run my country! (that goes for EVERY Forigner!)

To: Bobbi Mohrle -and- Mr. Getout.

You guys were saying that undocumented immigrants are taking our jobs. I'm a citizen like you guys and the illegals immigrants are not taking my job, you know why? because I am a kind of person who wants to be successful in my country and I do not realize my self working in Florida picking apples, oranges, and vegetables for less than $4.00 dollar an hour without benefits. Okey you guys want to do that even that you are citizens.

About the Social Security; hehehehe thats funny You guys were saying that; "Those people are raping the system. -AND- Sucking our social service system dry". The thing is that you do not really know what is going on. The Social Security still working for the money that UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS do not request by the IRS because every illegal immigrant has a work number which the state take thier taxes. However, SSC it is not the only way to pay taxes, they pay taxes when they buy a candy or when they send money to their relatives etc....
The only person who is sucking our system is our president who is spending the money of the country in a fucking and unjust war.
You guys have to study more becuse you don't know anything about immigrantion laws.

You both seems to me as a typical piece of shit in the society.

It is time that the undocumented immingrants demostrate that they are seful in this country and the immigration laws have to be changed.

I think that we need to round these people up. We can't have our nation filled with immigrants. Lets line them up, and then we can decide what to do with them. Either send them back or put them in special "camps". We can all work together to help "filter" our nation.

We dont need these people, lets send them back to where they belong.

To: Bobbi Mohrle -and- Mr. Getout.

You guys were saying that undocumented immigrants are taking our jobs. I'm a citizen like you guys and the illegals immigrants are not taking my job, you know why? because I am a kind of person who wants to be successful in my country and I do not realize my self working in Florida picking apples, oranges, and vegetables for less than $4.00 dollar an hour without benefits. Okey you guys want to do that even that you are citizens.

About the Social Security; hehehehe thats funny You guys were saying that; "Those people are raping the system. -AND- Sucking our social service system dry". The thing is that you do not really know what is going on. The Social Security still working with the money that UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS do not request by the IRS because every illegal immigrant has a work number which the state take thier taxes. However, SSC it is not the only way to pay taxes, they pay taxes when they buy a candy or when they send money to their relatives etc....
The only person who is sucking our system is our president who is spending the money of the country in a fucking and unjust war.
You guys have to study more becuse you don't know anything about immigrantion laws.

You both seems to me as a typical piece of shit in the society.

It is time that the undocumented immingrants demostrate that they are useful in this country and the immigration laws have to be changed.

In light of today's "The Day Without Immigrants Boycott", Texas has
officially pronounced this Friday, May 5 as being "Bring Your Illegal
Alien To Work Day". This day will provide important professional
workplace exposure for your illegal to prepare him/her for their
future in our country. In this day and time, work experience is the
key in obtaining a job. This day will provide your illegal the
necessary know-how in important workplace areas, such as: acclamating
to air conditioning, learning that the restroom in not just a "blue
box", lunches can actually come from somewhere other than a paper bag,
as well as why those strange taxes are removed from their paychecks.
More importantly, your illegal will learn the importance of safety.
They will learn that "carpooling" CAN be accomplished with less than
18 in the back of a truck.
The day would begin with the singing of the "National" Anthem (sung in
Spanish, of course). After that, they will be allowed to tag along
with you, learning all the ropes of corporate America, meeting new
friends, and enjoying the splendors of the good 'ol USA. To end this
spectacular day, employers are urged to host a "job fair" to expose
their illegals to the jobs they might expect in the future with their
companies. (Six-packs of beer are always helpful to bridge the
communication gap).

We hope that you and your company will participate in this exciting
day. Not only will it make you feel better about yourself, it is
beneficial to provide help to all of the non tax-paying, non-
healthcare contributing people who surround us everyday. Without
them, who would cut your grass or roof your house? You?

I my self i'm an immigrant a legel one for that matter, i am from Spain, I am gratefull for being here and the opportuities that i have here in the US. yet, for those people who think that an immigrant is the lowest type of living you are wrong. yes we know that americans are very proud of their country and what not, they should be it is a great country.now,lets SUPPOSE that for some reason the us goes down and you know that across the border you can make a better living, cuase see regardless of the status of your country you still have to eat, and in most cases these people have families that have to eat too. now the only problem is that the goverment doesnt want you there, and a bunch of close minded ignorant, red-necks will shoot you if they see you running along the border throu night. my coment is directed to all of those who ignore that fact that their whole country was founded on IMMIGRANTS, no one is sucking your social security dry, your goverment is in debt close 1 trillion dollars in social security cause of tha baby boomers,after the great depresion, and supporting a war that has no reason, cost about 92BILLION dollars A MONTH! (apparently yes illigal immigrants go 2 school for free, and so do you, but u didnt learn anethin?)An illegal allien is not a criminal, criminal is the strugle to survive that these people go throu and no one gives a dam because they are not leagel citizens and they dont have rights well, they are still humans and they might not have civil rights there is something called HUMAN rights. and if im not mistaken is this not the land of the free, life, liberty and the persuit of happiness. well if their idea of happiness is working for what ever amount of monye working on a field let them do it, if they are taking your jobs why dont you do go and do that job. and please if you ever visist my country im sure that you would like to trated with respect and dignity correct, well dont ask for to much more than you give.

thanks

"A day that will begin the infirmity " of at least two mexican workers whoe did not show up for work and were fired right straightaway .. No work no job .. I suppose everyone else is Sick of this Shit .. too....I stand with my American feet Wide spread and planted on Texas soil and tell you ,,Take your shit on down the road .. I no longer acknowledge or accept ...bye -bye

This comment is for Manu Chao. Apparently you, too, are confused. This is about illegal immigrants, not legal ones like yourself. Immigration is a good thing. Most of us welcome immigrants. What we don't want and don't need is the useless illegals who come here. They are a huge burden. I work in healthcare, so I see it all the time.
Also, you said if we "visit" your country, we would expect respect. That is true. The illegals aren't VISITING...they're staying here without one legal leg to stand on. I say go home and good riddance. We don't need you. We don't want you. Today without you has been a huge blessing.

The thing is, illegal immigrants are taking all the minimum wage jobs that nobody else will take, but to them, its considerd more money than in thier last place, (if they were paid good there, why would they leave? )duh! These are all the jobs that pay like 4 dollars an hour or a day,but there, its like "2" dollars a week. and what you dont get is that eventually they'll realize thier boss has paid them bird feed, and quit to a better normal wage paying job. So thier children get to go to college and thier families will be fed.

~truley ,my opinion is that the march is a good thing. By sending them away is a cheat 2 them.they took our advertsisement,
FREEDOME. they didn't come to deal with all that rasist crap that says if ur
*place race here* you have to leave. thats like saying if you have two arms, u gotta go.they came here to rebiuld a nice home,u no, start a new life. and even being illegal they should still have thier own personial rights,
there here aren't they? doesnt it mean they should have political rights too?
there in america, doesn't that exspose them to american rights? i mean like doesn't it make them gain the rights of an american citizen? they're showing thier rights now.the march is like freedome of speech along with the protests ,& boycotts which makes sense.don't they have the freedome like of not being harassed by nieghboring people telling them to go home.so i think its a good thing thier fighting for something they believe in.its the goverment up against 11million hard working illegal immigrants and alot of exstra support.
im rooting for the illegal immigrants and thier help.
your chioce who you choose.

Without immigrant workers, this country will be totally fucked up; it will be a very expensive place to live - Why don't they remove those people on welfare from this country??? They are lazy, and abusing government money. Immigrant workers whether legal or illegal work very hard, and they deserve to be Americans.

Our school bends over backwards to teach English to the kids coming here who have none. Our teachers all have had to "relearn" how to teach and modify their classrooms to accomodate these children, and are doing so without batting an eye. We give them great food, fun, and education here. What more could a family want, whose aim is to come to our country for a better life for themselves and their children?! Yet our school is empty of Latinos today, May 1. What is their message about (our) school? Not one kid can tell me; they all said "I just don't want to come to school today". So, I await with held breath to witness the next stage of immigrant action. These kids would like nothing more than to be told they don't have to come to school. Maybe in Mexico, education is like that, but in America, we've been told this is the land of opportunity for those that pursue their education. With that in mind, my son, who is in 8th grade, and who is planning on attending a trade school of some kind, better be making more $ than the hog and chicken killers and packers, or I just may have the impression that our country and it's historical values are nothing but shit.

"A Day Without Immigrants"??? Let's see some great things about this day...

I can safely park my car at work.

I don't have to hear illegal alien mothers bragging about their anchor babies...in Spanish, while in line at the grocery store.

My children's teachers will actually have TIME to focus on kids from families who care about learning...IN ENGLISH!

No more incorrect food orders at the fast food drive-thru

I will not have to repeat any questions when when I shop, only to get that blank stare with a barely audible "Que?"

The absolute best reason for illegal immigrants to stay home today (and every day):
Emergency room wait time decreased to nearly zero!

Illegals who wish to change public policy and opinion should do it in their own countries. Protest in Mexico. Protest in El Salvador. Vicente Fox and other Latin American leaders are doing their citizens a grave injustice. Instead of providing opportunties for their own citizens, they do absolutely nothing. Then, they want to blame the USA for failed policies. The USA doesn't need a new, comprehensive immigration law. It already has one. Unfortunately, illegals disregard the rule of law, the American flag, and the English language. Make a new comprehensive law, and illegals will ignore that one too.

Not a funny joke


1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million
people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal
alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in Ca lifornia detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).

(All 10 from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on& nbsp; welfare.
http://www.cis.org


Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90%
of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.


The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET
(after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor
Donald Huddle, Rice University].

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

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Not a funny joke


1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million
people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal
alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in Ca lifornia detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).

(All 10 from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on& nbsp; welfare.
http://www.cis.org


Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90%
of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.


The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET
(after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor
Donald Huddle, Rice University].

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

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Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice??????

Think about it! All we have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS?

I celebrate Christmas...........but because it isn't celebrated by everyone..............we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings.

It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday?

We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that. This says it all!

This is an editorial written by an
American citizen, published in a
Tampa, FL Newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!

IMMIGRANTS,
NOT AMERICANS,
MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we
are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11,
we have experienced a surge
in patriotism by the majority
of Americans. However...... the dust from the attacks had
barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began complaining about
the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to ! America.
Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants.
However, there
are a few things that those
who have recently come to
our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.
This idea of America being a
multicultural community
has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans......
we have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women.......on Christian principles.............
founded this nation..... and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it
on the walls of our schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as
your new home.........because
God is part of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or
you don't like Uncle Sam, then you
should seriously consider a move
to another part of this planet.
We
are happy with our culture and have
no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where
you came from.
This is
OUR COUNTRY,
our land, and our lifestyle.
Our First Amendment gives every citizen the
right to express his opinion and we
will allow you every opportunity to do so!
But once you are done complaining....... whining..... and griping....... about our flag.......
our pledge...... our national motto........or our
way of life...I highly encourage you to
take advantage of one other Great American Freedom.......

THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.

May 1st should be called "National Shoot Yourself in the Foot Day", or "Let's Shit Where We Eat Day", or "Let's Use Strong-Arm Tactics Like Those Used by Union Leaders Day"...how about "Let's Piss Off America Day"?

I don't have a problem with most immigrants, but spics (that's right, I said it) Are the most ignorant, ill-mannered assholes in existance. How dare they try to bully us after they snuck into our country?! I was so happy when I heard that immigration has been rounding up and deporting them by the bus loads for the last few days. Took them long enough!

hello

i see that are many opinions here,but for what i can see no many people see the things in the right way,first of all i dont really think nobody should be bothering about this "day with out immigrants"

if you support them ok go ahead (let's see if it everthing their doing works)..

if your against them ok go ahead (let's what you can do to get a rid of them)..

illegal immigration is being always a problem in the U.S. but, you really see what is going on? 11 million of people!! i dont think would go away so easy, and neither go control them, there are many immigrants entering to U.S. everyday(legally and illigaly).

many immigrants (mostly hispanic)have the idea that white people or how the call them (gringos). hate them and don't want them here, they have the concept that americans are leazy people that don't like to work, part of the U.S. was in this case (mexican territory), but is not anymore..
som of them know that anyone who is not navtive american (indians) or did born in american soil is not is a immigrant ,legal or illegal they came from all over the globe and will keep coming (even some of the latin america was part of indian territory and was token by european IMMIGRANTS!!
they dont understand that the term Illegal (alien) doesn't give them any right (with exception of the human rigths)
they here in looking for a better way of life! (have u seen how coditions of their countiries!!.. have you seen the places were they used to live! IT'S HORRIBLE!!)they don't really want to destroy the system and ruin this country they want to live a better life AND THEY WOULD DO ANYTHING TO GET THE CHANCE). that's why they cross the deserts, thats why they hide in ships, that's why they jump the fences, and get fake ducuments. but only the educated and ussualy the rich get's the papers and visas pay the bus or airplanes ot get overhere, learn inglish and the history of the country some of them even join the army or navy.. and they defend this country.

let's see the other side...
what problems are due to immigrants??
the population rate had encreased a lot. that means the country is getting croweded. the goverment has to make programs to educate and netralize all aliens..
the crime and violence rate has encreased, there is many gangs and drugs (im not saying that it's all their fault) but some immigrants help drug dealers to pass them across the border and they still doing it.
racisim is everyhere. black,brown,asian,withe,indian,and anyother race that is not theirs is being discriminated..
could keep saying more and more and more in support of them or totally againts them.. but,
i still hoping that one day, all of this get's to it's end and.. it never repeats again.

Every company forced to close or limit business today due to ILLEGAL immigrants attempting to strong-arm our country through protests should in fact be fined (or shut down) for hiring illegals to begin with!

Today is the day!!! Now is our chance. Immigration should flood these demonstrations, and make everyone attending show proof of legal residency. If they don't have proof they should be charged with a federal crime, deported, and NEVER be allowed here. If they want to be here do it the leagal way. The reason they refuse to do things right is because they are not educated enough to read the paperwork. This country would do much better with out mexicans. Pretty sad when my 15 year old son goes to a Wendy's restaurant to apply for a job, and they only have applications in spanish. I say fuckem, charge them, and send them back forever. All 11 million of them.

To previous post about Wendy's non-english hiring preferences. As a father of three young boys ages 10, 8 and 6, I tell my boys that getting a fast food job or paper route after school when they are teens is a non-existant assumption from a by gone era. Instead I am teaching them to start thier own businesses even at 6 years old! Today's technological advances , ie the internet has ushered in opportunities and new ideas for teaching our kids to become business owners...check out www.richkidsmartkid.com.

Well I just wanted to remind everyone that unless you're Native American you are an immigrant. This country is made up of immigrants. So if you say I'm American you really aren't. I also don't understand why when people say illegal immigrant they automatically assume Mexican. Mexico is not the only country in the world! There are many others that have come here. I don�t think that a day w/o immigrants will work because it could very easily backfire. They shouldn�t let immigrants come they should just let the ones that are already here work. If they want to be successful I recommend they learn English. I�m not for or against it. I�m just saying it could backfire, and America could see that they may not need them as much as they made Americans think.

all of you mexicans are a fking disgrace.

Put race aside, put culture aside, put class aside, it all comes down to being here illegally. You can say what you want but in the end an illegal immigrant or alien is just that illegal. We don't have "Look what the convicted felon did for me day" or "Hey, that serial killer isn't so bad day" What other illegal group could protest in the street about the crime the were breaking? It comes down to this, I don't care who, or where you came from, in fact I want you to work, I want you to have your American dream, the one thing I ask is this, just do it LEGALLY.

Laura (previous post) you are confusing Nationality with country of origin. I happen to be black, and I am an American. And your assumption that native americans are NOT immigrants reveals your youth. True, the Native American people were here before Europeans based on written history, however the Indians migrated to what is now North America. To say "unless you are a Native American you are an immigrant" is extremely, misleading and obviously ignorant. Infact China is one of the few industrial countries inhabited by indigenous people in the world. Also the reason why everyone refer to the illegal alien problem as a "Mexican problem" has to do with the fact that nearly 70% of illegals ARE Mexican (I've yet to see half a million Hmongs protesting in the streets of LA), and the American Mexican border is the most porous. Do your own research, infact next time you are at the DMV or Emergency Room in your neck-of-the woods and tell me what you see!

I hope that what we have seen throughout the day today May 1, 2006 helps people understand our cause, but also understand our power. You state that we dont have the experience to pull something of this magnitude off with success. Well look around you, it's happening. We're not doing this to hurt anyone. We're doing this to prove that the U.S. does, in fact, need us in this nation. If we're not here, who will be picking the grapes, hoeing the cotton, cultivating the lands in 115 degree weather in the summer or in 20 degree weather in the winter? Who will be cleaning and sanitizing hospitals and emergency rooms, or removing litter from highways? But not only that. A lot of us pay tuition and attend colleges and universities and are earning bachelors and masters and doctorates and becoming your physician, your laywer, you mayor, helping this country become a better place with everyone and for everyone. So when you go to critisize our efforts and our demands dont just look at who's picking your fruits and vegetables in the fields or who's cleaning the hospital rooms, look at who owns the company that is selling those fruits and vegetables and who's treating you in those hospitals and who's defending you in that courtroom. We're not just field workers and construction workers. We're educators, enterprenuers, doctors, laywers, CEO's, business owners, sons and daughters of illegal immigrants, wifes and husbands or people working hard to make a difference. We are no better and no worse than anyone else. We want to be treated that way...EQUALLY.

so now what??

then indians came here first right??
im assuming that everybody knows that there where indians back in too and othere latin countries (research a little bit now you see who is the real american and is not real americans back in indian times the there wasn't a fence between mexico and U.S.

now mexicans are a mix of people from spain and indians so i assuming that they kinda have a right of beeing here but, now with centuries of wars and territory divided now they Don't any...

I expect someone to reply this note...

(bad grammar) I know...

This is for Maricela Escobedo...I'm fairly certain that anyone who is a lawyer or educator or doctor is here legally and if not, that's really a shame. However, my point is that you said you want to be treated equally. I am all for that. Anyone else in this country who commits a crime is punished. So, let's round up the illegals and send them home. Legal immigrants are most welcome. Just get rid of the illegal ones that are such a burden.

Ok, it seems like everyone is being so damn selfish. You guys are complaining about "aliens", but, let me see, why don�t you complain when you go to work and see your office clean, (because that is what most inmigrants do, the dirty jobs, cleaning, etc)why didn�t you complain when your house was built, or when you see your city clean??? or when your made do an excelent job cleaning your house. Maybe you DO need to stay in your damn country full of people full of themselves. I�m not saying all americans are like that, but it seems like most of them. I�ve been in your country a lot of times(legally) and i had this good impression of America, but now, it seems like it has changed, or maybe i didn�t meet the right people back then. If i could do something i would send all the inmigrants home, and make them understand and make them stop doing you guys a favor. I hope all the inmigrants go home and back to their countries. Maybe you guys can realize that inmigrants are not bad, and they are a BIG help, they might not be 100%needed there,but at least they help a lot.

ok wow

at list you understand and see it in the right way

they just don't understand..

My office actually did get cleaned today. Funny thing.
Yes, I can guarantee my house was built by illegal immigrants because it was so shoddily done. They didn't even put the plumbing in correctly. Someone here legally would be more intelligent than that.

Also, will people keep saying just "immigrant"? We're not talking about immigrants. We are talking about people who are here illegally. Big difference.

Also, there are plenty of people here who would do these more menial jobs either because they didn't want higher education or couldn't afford it. Quit saying illegal immigrants do us a favor. If they really want to do me a favor they'll go home.

to Maricela Escobedo:

What part of the word "illegal" do you NOT understand? And as far as "picking cotton and grapes" and all the other nonsense. We Americans are a rough 'n' tumble bunch! We would be able to fill those jobs ourselves if need be or simply replace the jobs with technology to do away with the human help altogether...either way you sorely underestimate our ability to bounce back (see 911).

And as far as the litany of jobs that "no one else will do" it's all a myth. Fact is no one else is crazy enough to work at reduced rates far below the economy, now those Americans that could work those jobs have no playing field to request a living wage because illegals have made poverty-level wages the norm! I cannot believe YOU DO NOT GET THIS!!! Bottom line Vicente Fox must be laughing in his oil money right now, after all he's gotten rid of his "problem" and they are sending money back to his country helping his economy while burdening ours.

Ok, it seems like everyone is being so damn selfish. You guys are complaining about "aliens", but, let me see, why don?t you complain when you go to work and see your office clean, (because that is what most inmigrants do, the dirty jobs, cleaning, etc)why didn?t you complain when your house was built, or when you see your city clean??? or when your made did an excelent job cleaning your house. Maybe you DO need to stay in your damn country full of people full of themselves. I?m not saying all americans are like that, but it seems like most of them. I?ve been in your country a lot of times(legally) and i had this good impression of America, but now, it seems like it has changed, or maybe i didn?t meet the right people back then. If i could do something i would send all the inmigrants home, and make them understand and make them stop doing you guys a favor. I hope all the inmigrants go home and back to their countries. Maybe you guys can realize that inmigrants are not bad, and they are a BIG help, they might not be 100%needed there,but at least they help a lot.

"wow" you don't get it! Let me make it simple for you: legal immigration=good, illegal immigration=bad!

You know, extremist Muslims pulled this very same stunt in France and now the French are so over run that the French Government can barely pass laws without threats from extremist groups from OUTSIDE the country! The very same strong arm tactics are being used here in the USA by illegals and thier supporters.

BTW my office is at home, I don't hire illegals...yes! We get them offering services, but its funny none of them have a business license, or are bonded...and they want to bring thier children along! And the Mexican "builders" of our home did a half-assed job, we are constantly calling those guys back for things like cutting our sprinkler system in half with cutting tools, or attempting to take items intended for Disabled American Veterans pick up.

Thanks Mexico for helping drive down wages and turning our country into a service industry nation!!!!!!

BTW Thanks for that wonderful import the MS-13 street gang, what a wonderful group of boys and girls...just what our country needs!

Pass this law and I will invoke every power and ability within me to aid and assist all those who would wish to stay. Legal or not. It will be the honor of my life to help them, much like how my ancestors had worked to help slaves run free at the Mason-Dixon line.

Miranda is angry and where she lacks for compassion at this hour may it be that she will find it once more when the intensity has diluted. Compassion is an essence not born of logic but of the heart. You know these illegal immigrants mean no harm, they are desperate for an answer, they are already at your feet. Stomping and them and eliminating them... cannot be the your natural resort to all things weaker then yourself.

The boycott as I see it is an attempt from a largely ignored and manipulated body of our society, yearning and straining now to breath free.

We have a need, they fulfill it. Just reward for just actions, if they dot the T and the I's then give them citizenship.

The reality is we will not be able to expell so many. I will not stand still to watch officers tear legal children away from their parents while deport and make felons of their parents.

I want no part of a nation that does this. Nor would you Miranda.

The task now is to find a path, a direction where we can fit those who are here illegally, those whom will be here and melding the two with an outcome where our country and our newest citizens can benefit each other and the Union therefore stronger for it.

To do anything else is to add to the blood and tears of a young nation's history once filled with an ideal and a dream but often ending with none of the above.

All this talk of rule and law, rules and laws guide you they are not there to demand and force you forever more. The rules and laws change as needed to fit what is needed. If this nation had followed all the rules and laws....

We would still be a colony of England.

Once upon a time, when it suited our needs we realized this... now that it is another people that is coming and asking for the same..

we use the rule of law now to deny them... and state that they are in defiance of that law.

We as the people make the laws.. its up to use to decide.. not some text that maybe outdated and due for change.

omg!!

see!!! Michaels know what is really going on....

This is for f'kin mexicans: It is pretty sad that you (being white) I assume, will send or allow your child "15" to go into a wendy's to apply for a hamburger flipping job, shame on you, teach them how to sell lemonade, or how to become the owner of a small business or how to be somebody, and you cry about the jobs they still from you?.
ha,ha,ha, you should be ashame of yourself ( you are more than likely a $ 5.00 an hour clown yourself) bye hamburger flipper.
Have your child read this (kid don't become what your father wants, he is supposed to support you till you get out of high school) go to college and now that you are still a kid enjoy being a kid, and don't listen to him if he tells you to get a hamburger flipping job.Do comunity hours to help you thru college, study like crazy but please don't be like your dad (more than likely a hamburger flipper himself.

This is for What the: the illegals cut and stole your sprinkler system you said?
ha,ha,ha you meant someone walked off with your water hose, did you not?.
Sprinkler systems are buried underground you stupid clown.

Miranda-
I have to agree with your post!
As a teacher in a school with a high Hispanic (read: Illegal alien) population, more than half our kids stayed home. In all actuality, the teachers were glad-our classes were'nt overcrowded and we work with students in small groups.

OK er.."Pancho"

A brief expalanation about the damage to sprinkler head:

a bunch of "workers" cut the spinkler head in half after attempting to repair the already shoddy section of sidewalk, you just expect a bit more when you work your ass off to buy a 400k home, "Pancho". Pancho, you need to get a life.

And "Michaels" post is COMPLETE mental masturbation.

Your post is a sugary sweet depiction of how the world might be with rose colored specticles.
No one is going to "tear innocent children" from thier illegal alien parents, you dolt.

We do need to send a clear message that we are a country of laws regardless of how "outdated" they may seem to you...judging by your wording you must be atleast 15 so, many things about our society will seem outdated, like cable TV and the internet, for example.

If someone sneaked into your house and offered to clean your toilet if you let them stay, knowing full well they broke the law by taking over your home, would you let them simply stay? Or would you throw your hands in the air and say "ah, what the hell...you're here, I'd better get used to it".

This issue is about illegal immigration and no flowery self serving post by a bunch of America hating spinless girlie men is going to change that fact!

I believe that there is a point to be derived from this whole scence. Maybe illegal aliens should not be considered felons but however they should become legal. This is what should be called earned entrance. It seems as if the more I work the more I am taxed. Not to say that society doesnt' abuse that fact that immigrants are willing to work for lower wages, because they do. My issues concerns problems with my rise from poverty as an American. Just because you live in America doesnt' mean you live the American dream. You earn it. Our tax dollars pay to suupport medical, education and so forth. How is it fair to me when the next person is able to pocket their earnings without being taxed and are free to will to spend as will. I am working hard to live the white picket fence dream. The key words are learn to "earn." This attempt to evoke threats depicts ignorance of the subject at hand. I think Matt B said it well. Its a matter of principle.

This is for save Pancho:
Ha,ha,ha excuse us all for not realizing that mobile homes (trailer trash) are now in the 400k range.
Just because you punch holes into a water hose, you think you have a sprinkler system, ha,ha,ha, you hamburger flipper.

Hey, Pancho,
I used to flip burgers, now I make good money. All my friends flipped burgers at some point. You have to start somewhere. We call it "pur-i-tan work eth-ic." And if you want to call me white trash, at least I know how to write effectively, you functional illiterate.

Our country, the USA is a country that needs nothing of illegal immigrant workers from Mexico. People neglect to realize that the real wealth of a country isn't generated from fast food workers or immigrants picking strawberries for low wages. So what if strawberries will cost 10 bucks a peck, it will be a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for all the illegals' health care and education. Boy, those areas of the country that don't have illegal immigrants to "fill the jobs nobody will do" are really hurting for people to do those jobs, lol!! Mexicans: stay in Mexico and work to make YOUR country better. If you want to come here, beg us, and maybe we'll let you. For now, stay out of my country, you parasites. Oh, and don't accuse me of being a "lazy" american, I've worked as a carpenter as hard as any immigrant ever has, and I've recently studied in college to gain a bachelors in Chemistry. Oh, and I did it without any scholarships, because all of the ones I was offered actually said that you had to be non-white to apply. Go figure......

This is for Heath: Hey you said it bro, not me: Read again "Trailer trash" never said "white trash", now you make good money do you?.
You moved up to $ 8.00 an hour did you?
ha,ha,ha you are way below what the wet backs are making, and if you flipped burgers! I'm sure it was because you got an outstanding education when you dropped out of high school, ha,ha,ha you and your high paying $ 8.00 an hour job.

Wow!! Its amazing to see the animosity and hatred that has erupted out of this. Where did this become an I and me issue on race and up bringing. Everyone is certainly entitled to their views. I consider myself to be just as liberal as the next person. Someone has to be the voice of reasoning here and do a little more research into the issue at hand.

Hey Heath: once a peon always a peon.

I make considerably more than $8 an hour, and I had better grammar than you in third grade. I flipped burgers to help pay for my education. One must eat, after all.
I'm sorry if I misquoted you--perhaps your hamfisted trolling is too pedestrian to pay much attention to.
As to anyone out there 'flipping burgers,' there is no dishonour in doing an honest days' work, irregardless of what Pancho in all his uncultivated wisdom might think.

this is for: fuckin mexicans

you are an idiot, please read the damn news, or watch them or something, the 11 millions are not only mexicans,ok??? so please first, go and get informed and then come here and write stuff again.

THANKS :)

P.S. I?m not in your damn country and i know better than you, you idiot

Hey Serge: Why do you think that scholarships are offered only to non-white.
Take a wild guess!
You are white, therefore your parents should have made good money, and should have paid for you to have a good education.
If you are a 2nd. generation or 3rd. generation, be it white or any other ethnicity they should not give you a scholarship period.

ha,ha,ha I appologize Heath, I meant to say $ 8.50 an hour.
That is considerably more than $ 8.00 for a hamburger flipper.

ha,ha,ha I appologize Heath, I meant to say $ 8.50 an hour.
That is considerably more than $ 8.00, for a hamburger flipper.

ha,ha,ha I appologize Heath, I meant to say $ 8.50 an hour.
That is considerably more than $ 8.00, for a hamburger flipper.

Yes, Pancho, they should give you a scholarship to M.I.T. instead of a rich kid with 1600 on his P.S.A.T. Society in general will be so much better off for it.

this is for: fuckin mexicans

you are an idiot, please read the damn news, or watch them or something, the 11 millions are not only mexicans,ok??? so please first, go and get informed and then come here and write stuff again.

THANKS :)

P.S. I?m not in your damn country and i know better than you, you idiot

Yes, Pancho, the insult was so utterly witty that, yes, it required saying three times. Your talents are utterly wasted here. You should be writing for Saturday Night Live. $8.50. Ooh burn! I've been schooled.

Heath: I feel bad about kids who did not get a good education, I appologize if I offended you by speaking the way I did about hamburger flippers.
Only peons get offended by something like that, sorry about that you peon.

Pancho:

People who work hard and are talented at what they do should get scholarships, not if you just happen to be poor. I know plenty of white men & women (including myself) who paid their own way through school. By the way, many "white" immigrants come over here also, and they still can't get scholarships. I may have come across a little harsh before, though. I have nothing against the mexican people in general, only when they break the law and act like this is their country and we owe them rights and services. My ancestors came over from Germany and worked their asses off trying to save enough money to send their wives and children over here. Luckily the Germans were the machinists and engineers who built this country. I wouldn't hesitate to do the same thing for my family as they did, but I wouldn't break the law to get here. Mexicans should respect our laws, which happen to be extremely lax in comparison to mexican anti-immigration laws. Go read for yourself if you don't believe me: it's a felony in Mexico. Double standards?

Hey, Pancho,
I probably make 2/3 of your hourly wage in the time it takes me to take a dump at work.

Serge: the only problem I see with your new position is this, we have laws you are 100% correct, if you are drunk the police will arrest you, if you are an illegal alien the border patrol officers are in charge of enforcing those laws, why are you sweating it out?.
I support the legalization of this illegal aliens, and they should make it a law.
1st. offense> if an illegal alien is found in a newly legalized alien, the fine should be $ 5,000.00 that will stop them from bringin in their relatives.
2nd. Offense> fine of $ 10,000.00.
3rd. offense> deportation of that alien who harbored another illegal alien, trust me they will control the borders if they did that.

Heath: ha,ha,ha if you did, you will move out of that trailer park you live in.

I'm an idiot.

No, really. I'm a big fucking idiot.

Also, please remember to visit my website at www.panchoisabigfuckingidiot.com

Thanks!

I was brought here when I was 7 years old. Illigaly. Yes, I am an illigal Immigrant. However, I love this country. I graduated high school. I got am assosiates in comptuer graphics(payed by doing freelance CG work). I have an American boyfriend (who I will not marry to become a citizen). There are other way's! Go infront of a judge tell them your situation and its a 50/50 chance, either he tells you that you stay or you dont. I have never tried to rip anyone off. I have never even thought about getting a fake ID or SS#.

I understand the word "Illigal" I'm not sopposed to be here. This wasn't my choice. Neither was falling in love with this country. Right now I don't even have an accent. I am not happy with what people did on the first. It just proves ignorance. If they are here to work? then go to work (Yes, they do pay taxes). They brought there kids here to get a better education? send them to school.

I'm just really pissed off at the protesters. I am of age now. I can go infront of a judge and turn myself in and tell him/her why I'm here and why I should stay here. I'm not happy at my situation but I'm not sitting on my ass whining about it. I agree with bush and his proposal. I'm a republican and belive in laws. Everyone should shut up and follow them. I grew up here. Being here Illigaly wasn't my choice. If I'm wrong for wanting to stay here then so be it.

What is it with people demanding? we are illigal. Calling others "racists" shows how ignorant they are. I'm really mad at mexicans it's a shame.. it really is. Those who choose to be in this situation deserve it. Others like me who didn't have a choice shouldn't even complain. We get to go to school, college. Yet some choose to drop out and become teenage delinquents. It's sad.. really sad.

It seems 'Common sence' didn't graduate highschool like s/he claims. What a waste.

There is no such word as "irregardless" its simply "regardless". FYI.

Just because they are successful at sneaking their way onto american soil does not entitle them to amnesty, or the right to protest (or any other right for that mater). "Hell" I may as well steal a million dollars then demand to keep it and not go to jail because "I have it and, it wouldnt be fair to take something that I already have" right?. I myself am a person of color and my grandmother emigrated "Legally". So I do not think my opinion is biased or rasist

Just because they are successful at sneaking their way onto american soil does not entitle them to amnesty, or the right to protest (or any other right for that mater). "Hell" I may as well steal a million dollars then demand to keep it and not go to jail because "I have it and, it wouldnt be fair to take something that I already have" right?. I myself am a person of color and my grandmother emigrated "Legally". So I do not think my opinion is biased or rasist

Just because they are successful at sneaking their way onto american soil does not entitle them to amnesty, or the right to protest (or any other right for that mater). "Hell" I may as well steal a million dollars then demand to keep it and not go to jail because "I have it and, it wouldnt be fair to take something that I already have" right?. I myself am a person of color and my grandmother emigrated "Legally". So I do not think my opinion is biased or rasist

I posted it so many times to get the point across.

I think most of you have no concept for how much illegal immigrants do for our country. Every society needs both strong minds and backs. Unfortunately in this country there are plenty of citizens who are worthless pieces of shit who wouldn't work hard even if you did give them a decent wage.
Do you have any idea how many illegals pay taxes and never see a dime of it back? HELLO! They can't just work for someone and claim they're illegal! They use FAKE social security numbers that they pass around amongst themselves.
Let's ship 'em back to wherever it is they came from! But then what US citizens are going to work our fields, wash our dishes, slaughter our meat? Welfare recipients? Ya right. People on welfare (professionally) make their livelihood from being useless bags of water.

I work with many illegal immigrants, and have my whole life. I'm from a region where most of your strawberries, asparagus, artichokes and lettuce come from. I work in the restaurant industry. Don't stroke your own ego thinking that since you're an American citizen you're better somehow. They're just like everyone else, they support their families, work hard (or are lazy as anyone else has the potential to be), and are looking to improve their lives. I've read some of the most ignorant words I've ever heard on this blog.
For example: "I'll be so glad to go to Taco Bell and for once they'll get my order right."
Also, assuming all these people will get fired for not showing up to their job is bullshit. Not a single Latin American showed up at my job yesterday. I asked my manager about how he was going to handle it. He said, "How could I fire them? What would I do then? Hire a bunch of guys who just got fired from some other place?"
Sorry, I was just reminded that I'm trying to sway a group of people whose opinion will not change.
Just think about how this country really works. Not just domestically with the common jobs illegals do, but internationally. The United States has a vested interest in keeping Mexico and all the other Latin American countries in their current state. Otherwise, where would we get all this cheap labor?
You can't tell me that a country as powerful as the United States has no way to control the tide of illegals, or help improve the conditions from which the illegals originally come from.
If you like local veggies, meat, or going out to eat, you don't function without stepping on the backs of illegal immigrants. That much is a FACT.
And since we're all politically incorrect adults here (my favorite was the use of the word "spic"- very classy), I will say this (as much to myself as all of you):
Arguing on the internet is like playing in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

Unfortunately, I think Gwen makes a good last point. It really is retarded to argue all this stuff on the internet. It's too bad that nobody in the government has the backbone to argue over this situation,which is so important to so many people for different reasons. All they do is play the blame game, too, about whose fault it is that nothing changes.
Things need to change and soon.

"WTF happened to America?"

Why didn't I graduate high school? Because I have another way of looking at thing's? Everyone is entitle to there own opinion. I researched ways immigrants can become citizens. There are TONS of ways people in mexico can come to this country legaly. There are programs that help everyone! The US has programs to bring in people from other country's as well. Do you have any idea how many difrent type of visa's there are?

People already here have two choices at the moment. Three pretty soon.

1)Marry someone who is a citizen.
2)Turn your self in and fight in case in court.

I did graduated HS. I do have an AS in CG. Don't try to belittle my accomplishments just because of an opinion. I was able to do it with because of how well Illigal immigrant kids have it. If teachers would have listen to prop 187 I wouldn't have been able to go to school.

Also, just to let you know what type of people the illegal immigrants have aligned themselves with, here is some information for you:

ANSWER helped organize these rallies.
What is ANSWER?
The lead group in Answer is the International Action Center. Led by the former attorney general turned extreme-left activist Ramsey Clark, Answer is considered widely to be a front organization for the notorious Workers World Party. The WWP is a communist group, formed in the late 1950s as a breakaway faction from the Trotskyite Socialist Workers Party.
The WWP decided it would support even the most dictatorial of Communist leaders if their mission was to undermine America and its allies � something that didn't sit well with most Trotskyites � and its final rift with the Socialist Workers Party was over the WWP's support of the crushing Soviet incursion into Hungary in 1956. The WWP went on to back the Chinese government and its tanks against the dissidents in Tiananmen Square, tout the virtue of the North Korean regime and openly state its support for dictators like Saddam Hussein and Slobodan Milosevic.
Both ANSWER and the International Action Center are closely allied with a small but energetic Marxist-Leninist organization known as the Workers World Party, which in its turbulent history has supported the Soviet interventions in Hungary and Czechoslovakia, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the Chinese government's crackdown in Tiananmen Square. Today, the WWP devotes much of its energy to supporting the regimes in Iraq and North Korea.
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Are these really the kind of folks you want here?
Here's what Lou Dobbs of CNN had to say:
"No matter which flag demonstrators and protesters carry today, their leadership is showing its true colors to all who will see."

Matthew Chapter 22
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Also 1 Corinthians Chapter 13
4 Love is patient, love is kind, and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant,
5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered,
6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;
7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8 Love never fails

Let's Love one another whatever you are who ever you are. This is God's 2nd commandment to mankind

Show respect to each other wether you are a US citizen, Illegal, Legal.......God Bless

Signed.....

oh, where you just being sarcastic because I typed sense instead of sense? lol. Spelling isn't my forte oviously.

Amy H. Sad thing is a lot of the people that walked didn't know this information. Which bring me back to the point that it was a bad idea for them to do this.

Hey Pancho,
Yes, you are a big idiot.
I was asleep at 4 a. m. because I'm not an unemployed loser like you. Do you watch those ads at 4 a. m. on t. v. about making money on the internet? What a loser.

Hey Pancho,
I may be a peon, but you're a loser.

Ha,ha,ha what an idiot you are Heath, still coming back to see what kind of stupid crap I left for you.
I like to leave messages like that to losers like you, just to piss you off, go back to your pitiful hamburger flipping life.
Had to go to bed early did you not?, otherwise you will not make enough money to pay that stupid payment on the trailer you rent, I thought you made a lot of money Heath!
Ha,ha,ha you looser you.
(I wrote looser otherwise you never would understand what I was trying to say, you stupid high school drop out)>loser.

Immigrant...illegal. Two VERY different things. Immigrant is someone who comes to the US via the IMMIGRATION process, not hiding in the back of a semi-trailer. An Immigrant is in this country legally, a welcomed visitor or resident. Immigrants have rights, benefits, and responsibilities granted by our laws.

So the solution is really simply...since illegals do not choose to follow the laws of legal immigration to this country, it is time to remove the benefits they have been enjoying. No more "anchor babies"...a child born to citizens of another country, especially those in the US illegally, should not be entitled to US citizenship. No more free education for illegals and their children. No more teaching in anything other than English and ESL classes ONLY for citizens and legal residents. No more health care for illegals, even pregnant women and infants. Immediate deportation back across the border into their native country...not to their former homes...simply into the country they arrived here from. Empty our prisons of the illegals...delivery them back to the capitals of their home countries. If their own country doesn't want them, tough. No more WIC, foodstamp, medical, energy assistance or housing benefits for illegals. And before you say they don't get them understand that it states right on the application that if you are illegal you will NOT be turned in to immigration. Tighten the borders and quite simply...if someone is trying to run across in the middle of the night treat them the same as you would someone who was breaking into your house in the middle of the night...shoot them and THEN call for cleanup.

Before you get started, I am certainly all for LEGAL immigrants. I have 4 legally immigrated adopted children from Eastern Europe. During my trips there (as a legally visiting foreigner) I certainly wasn't given any free benefits, those were reserved for citizens and legal residents. Once my children's adoptions were final they were removed from their schools...no longer considered citizens and therefore not entitled to free education. If they or I had become ill we could have obtained medical care ONLY if I had the funds to pay for it.

It is absolutely stupid to protest for the "rights" of a group of criminals who have no rights. If someone is here illegally they are breaking the law and are criminals, period. This is not just pointed at Mexicans, I know many Eastern Europeans who have come to the US on tourist visas and stayed. They are just as illegal as the Mexican who runs the border at midnight and deserve the same punishments. However, the majority of illegals are Mexican or Hispanic due to the poor job we do securing our southern border. As for the price of deporting illegals...bussing is cheap, much cheaper than paying for the services currently being utilized.

Hey, Pancho
You should probably go get a job flipping burgers, so you're not sitting in your mother's basement all day, pissing off people on the internet because your life is so dismal. Maybe you could actually get a girl that doesn't have airbrushed parts.

Did the USA ever prosper without immigrants? YES. (as of the 1800s)

Then who told 'em to come sneaking thru the back door and take away jobs that Americans should be doing?

Wonder why most foreign countries are tagging America as a "lazy" country.....we leave the low-wage jobs to the Immigrants and the rest of the Americans....to the Homeless shelter.

Wonder why the majority of homeless people in the USA ARE NOT IMMIGRANTS?? Hmm.....

Time to pass the damn bill......cuz America needs to clean house. SERIOUSLY.

The American Gov't only let the Immigrants in for extremely big projects (Brooklyn Bridge one of 'em), but other than that, we can do the jobs ourselves now.

Then again, I feel that this should be the new law:

Anyone who illegally snuck into the country before 1980 could stay pending review of records.

Anyone who snuck in before 1965.....might as well stay.

BUT ANYONE WHO SNUCK IN AFTER 1980.....GOODBYE! You'll have 2 weeks to pack up and go. Refusal to comply = 25 years in your home land behind bars....maybe life if you have a record.

Anyone who's caught sneaking back in.....35 years of hard labor in your home country. Painful, isn't it?

Cuz I've had it up to here with lost federal money. The Black Markets of America are mostly run by Immigrants. Money made is sent back to their homelands. For what? Who knows? It could be the drug trade? It could contribute towards crime? Wow....the possibilities....

If America didn't have immigrants, the economic situation wouldn't be so bad, right? Every citizen would have a job, and yes....the foreign countries would've been lost the 3rd world country tag a looooonngg time ago....we would've had competition crazier than Basketball games.

But with Immigrants in the U.S., we're being looked at as scrooges taking away from everybody else, and that translates to: HATE FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES. Whoopdee doo. Congratufuckinglations.

Wonder why we're going through conflicts from other countries?? Because people from those countries snuck out to go to the USA to make money for themselves.....WHO'S MONEY? OURS. YES. OUR MONEY IS FEEDING THE TUMMIES OF IMMIGRANTS WHO BETRAYED THEIR COUNTRIES AND CLAIM TO LOVE THEIR HOMELAND.

If you love your homeland, why leave? Be loyal to your land. Stay in it. It's better if you contribute towards the positive advancement of your homeland. Sad but true.

Call me all you want....but your foreign homeland is suffering worse than USA.....

And they can't stand it any longer.

Hey,Hannah

Every child deserves an education. How would you feel if your kid wasnt allowed in school just because they are adopted from another country? would you like your child to be treated difrently or get a poor education just because they are adopted? after all there are adoption centers in the US.
You sound really ignorant. It's not the kids foult. just as it's not your kids foult to have been taken from his/her country to be taken here.

"Shoot them" How very nice. I'm glad your adopted daughter is been taken care by someone so humane. What happen to "call 911" lol. Jesh lady!

Hey Hanna: sounds like the good lord in all his wisdom did not let you have children of your own.
Guess why!

Hey da: every second of the day an idiot like you is born, you are like roaches, we can not get rid of insects like you.
Never thought I will be reading garbage like the one I have been reading on this blog.
Stupid idiots like you, are the ones who make people all over the world hate us, because of the way we behave towards people from other parts of the world

I just want to say, do you ever notice how the majority of the time its the cheap, lower class people that are against immigrants, and the educated people seem more reasonable. why is that?

Hey, Pancho,
Don't get mad at Da because there are roaches all over your mother's basement where you live, you internet hermit. Go to the store and get some roach spray. And while you are at it, pick up a pocket dictionary, since this blog doesn't have spellchecker for you.

It’s sad that many people are being so racist. I laugh at u GRINGOS hahahaha u were so scared about “a day without immigrants" because you guys are unable to do many things U NEED INMIGRANTS SERVICES TO SURVIVE!.As a matter of fact, U.S lost millions of $$$ because of the day without immigrants. THAT’S SAD. I really don't know what "who him" means saying "immigrants have children they will never see grow because they’re never around" if the majority of American population is unable to TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN Children because they concern about everything, except their kids. THAT’S ALSO SAD. What will happen if all the immigrants left the country? What will happen to those American children whose parents are illegal immigrants? Are you thinking about deporting them also? Stop prejudices and start worrying about your kids, stop teaching them the system of racism and prejudices! HISPANICS stand up!!!Children because they concern about everything, except their kids.THAT'S SAD. What will happen if all the inmigrants left the country?what will happen to those american children whose parents are illegal inmigrants? are you thinking about deporting them also?stop prejudism and start worrying about your kids, stop teaching them the system of racism and prejudism! HISPANICS stand uUPPPPP

Katherine, please, put the crack pipe down. Step away from the computer. Go lie down. It'll be allright.

Hey Pancho,
I'm going to sleep, so you can get the last word in now. And remember: you were only supposed to take Monday off, so go get a job, little internet troll.

Hey Heath: You were right I did get the last word in.
You needed to get to bed early, (the owner of the burger joint will fire you if you don't get to flipping hamburgers on time)
But hey heath we all have to make a living even if it is making $ 8.50 an hour.
C.U

The post that started this thread, written by Andrew Friedman, several weeks ago, made some uncanny predictions that are/were fulfilled by this May day boycott fiasco.
Friedman states that: "This seems like a tactical error." and, "More likely, it would create a backlash. It places immigrants in opposition to the rest of the country -"
Just watching this thread as it goes through it's natural process of degrading, illustrates how these la rasa rascals show their "true colours". The salient point comes from the unreasoned ad hominem attacks of one "Pancho" here. The ad hominem attacks and hatred of these foreigners is counterproductive, because people can see it for what it is. US citizens see these vulgar rascals, and are not amused.
Andrew had one bright hopeful thing to say, "Instead of a strike, some have plans on May 1 for teach-ins, interfaith vigils and solidarity events that unite workers and their employers to build on the massive public rallies that have occurred in cities around the country."
But one suspects that the "true colours" of the rascals, like the taunting mocking lies of "Paco", is what the citizens will see as a reminder of what hateful punks these whiners are.
According to Friedman's post, "Organizers are naive regarding the tremendous undertaking of a nationwide boycott."
"It would be exceedingly difficult to pull off, and its almost certain failure will distract......"(Andrew's post tails off here into pathetic propaganda rhetoric)
Right Andrew. And my observation, from watching the well reasoned posts of the US citizens here, it does not "distract", but rather "attracts". It attracts negative attention.
This boycott fiasco, gives new meaning to the American slang term "Jump the shark". In the musical, the Sharks danced to the restless, syncopated Latin rhythms of the mambo. The phrase has been used outside the realm of popular culture, representing anything that has reached its peak and has turned mediocre. The ill advised, and naive boycott "jumped the shark" big time. Allegorically, "Paco", showed us how to "jump the shark" in a blog.

Hey wise brilliant clown:
I hate to burst your stupid little bubble, 1st. not la raza, 2nd. not latin, 3rd. white, 4th. not an idiot like you, 5th. not a $ 5.00 an hour hamburger flipper like you, 6th. not your neighbor that's for sure, don't live in the gheto, apartment complex, or the housing projects, 7th. don't have a screwed up attitude towards other human beings (except for idiots like you or heath), 8th. I live happy with my life, 9th. I enjoy watching stupid clowns like you make asses of themselves, 10th. it will be nice if all of us knew what the hell we were talking about, instead of just writing stupid words, just because we heard someone else say them, or because we are ignorants.
Hope you go and flip your hamburgers and make your $ 5.00 an hour on time every day.
The only people who complain and say (illegals are taking our jobs) are the ones making $ 5.00 an hour, those of us who enjoy a good life, don't care about that because they are not taking our jobs and we have an understanding about life.
Live it to the uneducated and the under-employed to bitch about how everyone else is at fault for their misfortune.

Hey wise Brilliant clown:
I am leaving it up to your imagination to figure out what I meant by some of the things i wrote.
I am sure it will be after five P.M. before I hear from you, as a rule you $ 5.00 an hour clowns can only write on your lunch brakes or after five P.M.

When attempting to proofread, as Mr. Webster tried here, always use proper punctuation. {There is no such word as "irregardless" its simply "regardless". FYI.}
In this case, one would use "it's" instead of "its". "It's" is a contraction, and means "it is"
My point being, as I have stated, this thread is really devolving. I'm sure Mr. Friedman would be proud to see his original thread unevolving. I'm not sure if it is devolving, or unevolving, but, irregardless (sic) Keep your ad hominem attacks coming. You are allegorically proving my point. I'll leave it to you to try to figure out what this cryptic comment means.
(The ad hominem attack does little to advance or prove a cause) The pictures of this May debacle are now out for all to see. American citizens see these images, and they are not amused. There will be one photograph of this fiasco, that will come to symbolize the "May 1st 2006 Show". I think this one sums it up nicely.-> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/corsi03.jpg
And quoting Burns: ?O wad some Power the giftie gie us to see oursels as ithers see us!? Or, in loose translation, ?O would some Power the gift now give us, to see ourselves as others see us!?
The poem was written about a louse. More on this later.
But this is the picture that the citizens see, and Mr Friedman's prediction is more than self fulfilling. It was inevitable.

And again, quoting Friedman, "There is definately momentum here, but it is important to be careful with it. It can evaporate quickly."
Think about it Friedman. Does momentum really evaporate? Turn the concept in your head.
The momentum did not evaporate, but was instead, turned against the perpetrators of this fiasco.
I use the word "perpetrators" loosely, just as I assume you used the allusion of "momentum... evaporating" loosely.
Momentum cannot be converted to different forms (unlike energy) although momentum can be exchanged between different masses when they interact by means of forces or collisions. For any closed system the total momentum is always constant
The momentum did not evaporate Mr Friedman.
A better analogy concerning the momentum, might be that it was, "like the charge of a clumsy dolt, and the dolt's own momentum was used against him, essentially throwing the dolt to the ground with his own momentum working against him."
This little "show of numbers" did little more than to polarize opinion against the foreigners, even more than it already is.
Maybe you need a new proofreader, Friedman. Paco might be available.
Stay tuned for the next installment, "good fences make good neighbors"

oops I just proof read that. It should be, "This little show of numbers, did little more than to polarize opinion against the foreigners, even more than it already was." (not "already is")

Hey, Pancho,
They're hiring at the carwash down my street. That's right up your alley. I like you Pancho. Do you cut grass?

Fascinating. I'm so glad to have found Friedman's thread here. Quoting Sammy D now, "- a culture that can think and not judge, a culture that asks questions and tries to understand the "Why?" and not use such words as ?Evil? ? a culture that takes the time to understand why, and how we can, as a culture, reach a solution to the problems we have, without demonizing other people, without repeating injustices."

Good one Sammy D, but on the "real side", check out this little item, before you run off at the mouth about "- a culture that can think and not judge, a culture that asks questions and tries to understand the "Why?"
This item,(SOURCE: Associated Press - www.washingtontimes.com) tells a horrifying story, of migrants who are left penniless and begging for food.
This should be a good reality check for you...
http://wehategringos.com/whg/?p=117

Pancho, DIAF.

Die
In
A
Fire

Thank you.

Hey? Whatever happened to the guy that started this thread, way back a couple of weeks ago? Friedman? Usually, your threads elicit about zero to five comments! This one is closing in now on 200 comments!! Anyway,about your premonition, remember when you said,-.. " talk of May 1st being 'A Day Without Immigrants,' a day where immigrants stay home from work and stay out of stores in order to show their economic power. This seems like a tactical error."
Spot on with that one Andrew. But, you know, I have this odd feeling that Friedman is lurking somewhere. It's just a hunch, but I suspect that Friedman is a bit of a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Or should we say Dr. Friedman, and Mr. Paco !!!! Paco is really Andrew, trying to keep his thread going !!!
What else could it possibly be?

Hey wisebrilliantclown: I'm thinking that I may be wrong about your schedule.
Your shift is the late shift is it not?
Or is this your day off at the burger joint.
Whatever it is you are wasting your time here you need to go get you a part time job, that way you can pay for the internet connection.
If they disconnect you, it will be impossible to spit your hate around anymore.

I am just now coming to grips with all this hate and animosity. This story about how when police conducting a raid for illegal aliens near a rail yard fatally shot a local man, apparently because his dark skin and work clothes made officers think he was a migrant,--It shows the absolute hatred of these people.
Check this out. http://wehategringos.com/whg/?p=117 Click on the red icon Andrew/Paco or whoever you are pretending to be. Click on and get a dose of the hatred here. This is real!!!

For those interested in making sure authorities are kept in the loop, there's www.ReportIllegals.com , which, "provides a simple, fast, and anonymous way to report illegal aliens and illegal employers to the appropriate U.S. government agencies.
Another site is www.WeHireAliens.com, an online Hall of Shame whose stated purpose is to expose "alleged" employers of illegal aliens.
"The biggest incentive for illegal aliens to come to the United States is to find work," the site notes. "If there are no employers willing to hire the illegal aliens, then the flood of illegal aliens will subside."
Some of the comments by the Mexicans who snitch each other out are hilarious. Here's one where Sacramento's Best Western Hotel, Howe Ave, , CA 95821 -->> "they have several iligal aliens worjing there one person is delia garcia rivero and her real name is josefina garcia rivero she buy fake birth certificate in laredo tamaulipas with the cartel her nephio manuel alfonso hermosillo garcia is ilegal owe money to irs and he say he is american citizen and he lies he is from mexico they #number is 916 4816019 "
WeHireAliens currently has more than 1,300 employers from at least 43 states on its list. W/more coming.
Day Without Immigrants? Not a Great Idea. Spot on Friedman - It was a "jump the shark", and websites have popped up in recent days to not only help authorities identify and locate the unlawful workers, but also expose the employers who provide them jobs.

{{uneduczaajedted cieep lower class??}}

Quoting ILuvS.L.P - "I just want to say, do you ever notice how the majority of the time its the cheap, lower class people that are against immigrants, and the educated people seem more reasonable. why is that?"
(Posted by: ILuvS.L.P | May 2, 2006 10:30 PM)
I never noticed it, actually. But turn the concept in your head, and try to think, "how could one construct a poll to measure this?"
Imagine taking a poll, and asking "Do you consider yourself to be 'reasonable'?? "
I suspect 93% will say they are reasonable. Then, once you put them in the "reasonable column", then ask something like "Do you feel that local and state police should help federal authorities enforce laws against illegal immigration?" (actually this poll was done by Zogby, and the vast majority agree with: Local and State Police helping out with the illegal 'visitors' problem. 81% answered yes to Zogby's question))
So there you have it. The reasonable majority is on the right side on the issue.
OK,OK Zogby did not ask "first of all... Are you reasonable", but he, Zogby, did find that the vast majority of US citizens, are against the illegals. "A majority opposed illegal immigration," pollster John Zogby told CNN. "In fact, when you combine those two terms, 'illegal and immigration,' it really conjures up a considerable amount of negatives. And, in fact, we find that it's really across the board."
The important polls though will be in the voting booths, and I suspect that politicians who are in line with Tom Tancredo's thoughts on the illegal problem will have a leg up when the votes are counted.
Now, concerning your characterization, "cheap lower class people, who are against immigrants......" all I can say is that your expressions really do show who and what you are. This is so typical of the bigoted, smug attitude of the moonbat left.---so --- Tell you what, ILuvS.L.P, if you want to get an accurate perspective, on how the people on "your side" are viewed by "educated people" check out http://www.wehategringos.com/whg/ , and go wander around in the slim pond of La Rasa. Check what these Mexicans are really like, http://wehategringos.com/whg/?p=117, -or,-- stay uneducated since "your side" is afraid of the truth!!

Hey Pancho,
Or is it Mr. Friedman? How many Mexican immigrants sit around on the internet all day? Every day? Most of them are out working, I'd wager.

Hey Pancho,
Or is it Mr. Friedman? How many Mexican immigrants sit around on the internet all day? Every day? Most of them are out working, I'd wager.